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AMD seriously needs to stop putting out public release dates they can't keep. This situation is strikingly similar to the frame pacing driver deadline they gave themselves last summer and missed by several weeks.
It was a day or 2 wasn't it?
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If I enable Frame Pacing or Vsync in 13.12, I get terrible performance, sound crackling, stuttering. If I turn both of these off, these problems go away. We'll see if 14.2 Beta drivers fix this or not.

Running these on a i7 930 (LGA 1366) at 4Ghz in two PCI-e 2.0 x16 slots on 2560 x 1440 @ 60Hz.
Most certainly not something most people experience so perhaps you should wipe your drivers or even do a clean install. Sound crackling sound like something might be seriously wrong either your MB or PSU might have some problems.

PS: you sure the slots are running x16 both because I once had one of my slots go into x4 mode and experienced negative scaling and horrible stutter.


290x / 290 are notoriuos about sound crackling in crossfire and horrible stutter / screen tearing with Vsync and frame pacing so you need to do your research before you blow off a known issue like that and tell someone theyre mobo or something is bad or messed up.

example http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/12/13/4_weeks_radeon_r9_290x_crossfire/4#.UuwzK_ldVco give a search of 290 or 290x crossfire sound crackling and there will be page after page of it has to do with no longer using the crossfire bridge cable and something about bleed over caused while running vsync or frame pacing.
Edited by rickcooperjr - 1/31/14 at 3:50pm
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290x / 290 are notoriuos about sound crackling in crossfire and horrible stutter / screen tearing with Vsync and frame pacing so you need to do your research before you blow off a known issue like that and tell someone theyre mobo or something is bad or messed up.

example http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/12/13/4_weeks_radeon_r9_290x_crossfire/4#.UuwzK_ldVco give a search of 290 or 290x crossfire sound crackling and there will page after page of it has to do with no longer using the crossfire bridge cable and something about bleed over caused while running vsync or frame pacing.
I need to do my research? I had 2 R9 290's and didn't have the problem therefore I didn't really think about those problems being common. Still sound crackling is extremely weird since you run the sound from a different source and the 290(x) doesn't do anything with it yet.

Are there any common grounds on the CF finger maybe they are missing that but again I can't remember this being discussed in forums we however had black screening. Maybe it is some new issue that came with more recent drivers.
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I need to do my research? I had 2 R9 290's and didn't have the problem therefore I didn't really think about those problems being common. Still sound crackling is extremely weird since you run the sound from a different source and the 290(x) doesn't do anything with it yet.

Are there any common grounds on the CF finger maybe they are missing that but again I can't remember this being discussed in forums we however had black screening. Maybe it is some new issue that came with more recent drivers.

This is definitely a known issue and happens to me as well, sometimes in game when VSYNC is applied, sometimes if I alt-tab out for system sounds, this is a crossfire frame pacing/vsync issue for sure.
 
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290x / 290 are notoriuos about sound crackling in crossfire and horrible stutter / screen tearing with Vsync and frame pacing so you need to do your research before you blow off a known issue like that and tell someone theyre mobo or something is bad or messed up.

example http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/12/13/4_weeks_radeon_r9_290x_crossfire/4#.UuwzK_ldVco give a search of 290 or 290x crossfire sound crackling and there will page after page of it has to do with no longer using the crossfire bridge cable and something about bleed over caused while running vsync or frame pacing.
I need to do my research? I had 2 R9 290's and didn't have the problem therefore I didn't really think about those problems being common. Still sound crackling is extremely weird since you run the sound from a different source and the 290(x) doesn't do anything with it yet.

Are there any common grounds on the CF finger maybe they are missing that but again I can't remember this being discussed in forums we however had black screening. Maybe it is some new issue that came with more recent drivers.


What are you refering to CF finger there is no tab / finger for crossfire bridge cable to be attached to so the CF finger common ground does not exist on r9 290 or 290X they crossfire thru the motherboards PCIe apparently you did not have a 290 or 290x in crossfire or even have one period or you would plainly see this and know this.The issue has been ever since the cards were released that this issue has been going on on all drivers upto present so older drivers or recent / newwest drivers makes no difference issue is still there about sound crackling / stuttering with Vsync or frame pacing on.


That Crossfire bridge we all know and learned to love is slowly being phased out, starting with R9-290/290X. In the near future Crossfire bridges will be thing of the past as AMD is going to run Crossfire over the PCI Express bus. Especially with standards like PCI-E Gen 3.0 there's plenty of bandwidth there, but even at Gen 2.0, it really is not an issue. For the R290 cards setup in Crossfire, PCIE Gen 3.0 is recommended. What if you do not have PCIE 3.0 compatibility ? Well, the bus will revert to Gen 2.0 which will probably not make more then a marginal difference as it is really hard to flood even two x8 Gen 2.0 ports.


Give this a read and maybe you would understand crossfire tab / finger and bridge cables are gone on 290 / 290X as that was one of the main changes they did involving crossfire on 290 / 290X. http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_r9_290_crossfire_review_benchmarks,2.html

I would like to know what cards you were testing in crossfire apparently it wasnt 290 or 290x because you claim it still had the crossfire tab / finger for crossfire bridge cable AKA your comment ( Are there any common grounds on the CF finger maybe they are missing that ).
Edited by rickcooperjr - 1/31/14 at 4:51pm
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Press has it now.

So theoretically, they released in January. (they never said they would release it to the MASSES in january)

lol

If we are lucky we will get it tomorrow.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-mantle-drivers-download,25927.html
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What are you refering to CF finger there is no tab / finger for crossfire bridge cable to be attached to so the CF finger common ground does not exist on r9 290 or 290X they crossfire thru the motherboards PCIe apparently you did not have a 290 or 290x in crossfire or even have one period or you would plainly see this and know this.The issue has been ever since the cards were released that this issue has been going on on all drivers upto present so older drivers or recent / newwest drivers makes no difference issue is still there about sound crackling / stuttering with Vsync or frame pacing on.

I would like to know what cards you were testing in crossfire apparently it wasnt 290 or 290x because you claim it still had the crossfire tab / finger for crossfire bridge cable AKA your comment ( Are there any common grounds on the CF finger maybe they are missing that ).
So you are saying that I'm lying about having 2 cards that I had I actually said it because it might have been the cause. Clearly since I no longer have the cards I can't really tell now.
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Are there any common grounds on the CF finger maybe they are missing that
I don't see how you can't see that I'm saying that perhaps now the CF finger is gone the common ground that was on the CF bridge is also no longer present.
Again patronizing me and telling I have never had those cards won't help anybody I didn't experience those problems so don't get hostile with me. But if you want proof I could take my Iphone and upload some pictures I made to join the R9 290(x) owners club. (I never submitted them because I returned them not long after)

Edited by maarten12100 - 1/31/14 at 5:59pm
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as far as frame pacing it only works in DX11 and at 1600p and lower, no eyefinity or 4k or dx9 or dx10. phase 2 is supposed to remedy most of that except dx9.

Are you kidding me? No DX9? I mean, I'm as willing to cut AMD slack as the next guy, but honestly, that was projected for like Q3 2013 at one point.

I have little squiggly exclamation points over my head right now.
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i find it even more enraging that again the press , AMD's favorit little marketingdepartment, got the drivers first to test, so what makes the press so special that customers can go take a hike for a while.

the press allready did a good job in falsly advertising the 290X for them. So what are the customers gonna get for all the trouble AMD ????
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