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Originally Posted by gh0stfac3killa View Post

well downloaded the new beta driver, and tested my r9 280x's single, crossfire directx and mantle. not sure where everyone is getting there numbers from but im actualy running worse in mantle and very stutter as well. this on a intel core i7 3770k of course stock or overclocked just plays horrible. I take the beta driver off and go back to the old driver and all is well. crazy crazy, not seeing this game changer as of right now. and from everyone that was in game using mantle while I was on chatting back and forth they are getting the same as I was. very stuttery game play and lower fps. so either you guys here have something the rest of the gamers that are actualy in game with me or most of your numbers are pretty much over blown. not inpressed in anyway as of yet with this mantle deal.
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-Mantle performance for the AMD Radeon™ HD 7000/HD 8000 Series GPUs and AMD Radeon™ R9 280X and R9 270X GPUs will be optimized for BattleField 4™ in future AMD Catalyst™ releases. These products will see limited gains in BattleField 4™ and AMD is currently investigating optimizations for them.

-Intermittent stuttering or stability issues may occur when utilizing Mantle with AMD CrossFire™ technology in BattleField 4™ - AMD recommends using the DirectX code path when playing Battlefield 4 with multiple GPUs. A future AMD Catalyst release will resolve these issues

You're double not supported yet. smile.gif
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post #1312 of 2769
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Originally Posted by Forceman View Post

So if you can't test it because the OSDs don't work, how do you know you are getting 80-85?

And perfoverlay.Drawfps 1 still works with Mantle.

And there is a benchmarking code dice has provided as Fraps doesnt work so we can benchmark its "perfoverlay.FrameFileLogEnable 1" and then 0 to end the benchmark.
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Originally Posted by smartdroid View Post

That is actually a 100% boost....personally i don't believe it.

Yea sorry about that its 90-100% boost. And Trust me I aint lying. I will provide a Video proof. I am waiting for a friend to show up so he can record with a cam.
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Originally Posted by Pandito View Post

With an fx 4100? I believie that's bottlenecking his 280x to hell and back, so yes I'd believe 40-80fps jump for sure.

Yea I could only play 32 players.. if I played 64p then my GPU usage would be around the 40-60% So basically What mantle is doing is removing that bottleneck and allowing the GPU to work its full potential. When I played 32p in DX11 I used to get around 65-70 avg. So If I had something like a 4770k I would be getting like a 10-15% boost at max. Thats the reason for HUGE improvements with low end CPU and a high end GPU. As u can see the APU with 7850k couldnt do much on its own with mantle. but when paired with 290x it did cause it bottlenecked the living **** out of it.
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Originally Posted by smartdroid View Post

yes but is overclocked to 4.5GHz shouldn't be much different from an APU. But hey as long as he noticed the improvement thumb.gif

Ohh!! Trust me on this one buddy, 4.5Ghz doesnt do ****! I got like a 2-3fps boost from 4Ghz to 4.5Ghz.

EDIT: Someone tell me how to add a spolier? I want to post my frame times so that someone can get me an AVG i suck at math!
Edited by Hacker90 - 2/2/14 at 5:19am
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I just killed a guy using mantle 3 times in bf4 ,2 were headshots. maybe u will get patch soon goodluck.)
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There are several improvements,expecially in BF4 on Siege of Shanghai where I used to drop to 50,now i'm above 60fps all the time,Ultra settings with my sig rig.GPU usage is pegged at 99% ALWAYS,where it was going down in some choke points with DX.The stuterring is awful though,lost couple of firefights because of it.Any ideas how to fix it?
Oh and btw,does 14.1 affect other games performance,those who use standard DX11?
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No stutter for me with a 290 when I did some short testing in the morning. It did improve frames pretty okay, so far the minimum I saw was like 88fps, but I haven't done extensive testing as I was playing futsal, but I'll do some testing later, perhaps today evening. I am unfortunately quite busy next week due to exams etc. But I will definitely do some more testing next week thumb.gif
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using i5 750@stock and 1 hd7950 dual-x flex @1100/1450 and expected some serious gains on full ultra 4xmsaa.
well, fps overall seemed to increase, but it doesn't feel as smooth as the fps number makes you expect...

also i experience CPU spikes that lead to severe fps drops. for example im standing in a building having ~80fps and suddenly, even though nothing happens on my screen, fps drop to 20-30 for a second.
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So you're saying that we need to re install windows to run mantle?
I suggest driver sweeping and closing any service that you don't need with msconfig and task manager.
Also don't switch or run anything but full screen there is a reason why AMD stated there were serious problems.

The point is reviewers have a blank rig with only a bunch of games and the driver installed no actual programs. Therefore they have less compatibility problems AMD however has a lab with all kinds of polluted installations.
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thanks for the reply but i was just being ironic.
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Just posting this in Mantle related topics, if your BF4 (like mine) is crashing while trying to get to settings where you will enable mantle, just go to device manager and disable your iGPU (in my case the HD3000 of my 2600K) it works like a charm!
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I just killed a guy using mantle 3 times in bf4 ,2 were headshots. maybe u will get patch soon goodluck.)

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Just posting this in Mantle related topics, if your BF4 (like mine) is crashing while trying to get to settings where you will enable mantle, just go to device manager and disable your iGPU (in my case the HD3000 of my 2600K) it works like a charm!

What about IGPU'less people

I guess it's better advice than reformatting your entire computer. tongue.gif
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