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My FPS seem to have been cut in half since the patch a few days ago, will do a few more tests, but as of now it's running like crap.

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Ok, my net has been freaking bad the last day or two it's taken some time to get around to reading these.
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See how the results varied from your 1440p to 1080p did you use same monitor and just donw size the rez and set to 60hz refresh rate vs changing monitor all together.

I also want to say congrats now you know why other people telling you it works fine for them with nice FPS and no issues with spikes / lag occurs for them while before you were criticizing theyre results before ( you quaranteed Sgt Bilko his FPS dropped to 10 FPS or lower commonly ) ( I believe you owe him an apology just stating that ) now you know first hand they were not lying nor were they full of crap and theyre test results were accurate and in general theyre gut feeling about Mantle performance.

9quad doesn't owe me an apology, he was going off what his (and many others) experience with mantle was, My results are the dark horse here.
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see my edit, it is not working fine, and I am still not convinced its working for them either as all the benches they have posted have been sub 20k frames, notice hitching doesn't start til the 40k frame mark. I dont owe him or anyone an apology, I did not call them a liar in fact I gave them rep for posting their results. Not sure why you think everyone is being a jerk when they post stuff, but I assure you I am not. I was telling him to run BF4TA because just looking via the eye, you wont see the fps ms length drops, which is different than calling him a liar..or saying he was full of crap.

I will run some tests next time i get back onto a decent net connection, might be a week or so. hopefully sooner.
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K very interesting I can see where your coming from you want long run results I am sure Sgt Bilko would be likely game to do so. I dont have the time at sec to do testing myself but later this weekend I should unless a major job comes in with a rush on it. I fanally got all the people getting theyre tax refunds in wanting badass gaming rigs and the miners wanting mining farm builds caught up for a while I hope for past 3 weeks it has been a madhouse ( 16-18+hr shifts I run my own bussiness lol ) here with the custom PC builds and the damn miners wanting custom open air stackable cases and such built. I did 32 custom gaming computer builds in past 2-3 weeks and also alot of custom cooling / case mods and such along with built / fabricated a bunch like 20 or more of stackable mining rig cases and such. I want to point out I have 5 work specific areas and 4 buildings dedicated to specific tasks like paint / case mods / custom cooling / fabrication ( fiberglass / plexi / welding and so on ) / and the white room I call it the final assembly of all the computers and such

Rick, sorry mate but for all the praise you are giving Mantle i'm yet to see one test from your rig, you are running a very similar setup to me and if you can do a couple of hours of testing then it would really help us figure out what exactly is going on.
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Than again it could be server issues as well, who knows. It's BF4 after all. And every bench I have ran today has been on the same 64 man shanghai server. So it could be something server side causing the hitching. I can run the test island all day long and never see a hitch.

This is very true, BF4 is a strange beast.......hopefully when the Mantle patch comes out for Thief we might be able to get some more stable results.
 
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I know I have not done any official testing on the game with Mantle 14.2 because have not had time to do so and at sec I got alot going on my fiances job had a few people quit and now her work schedule is filling in the gaps they left. So I am all over the place at sec with raising and watching / taking care of a 7 1/2 month old baby girl ( my daughter ) ( want to point out she is also teething 3 teeth coming in all at once ) and also doing my job at my home bussiness and trying to eat and sleep with me having baby at random hours of the day / night it is hard to have a schedule little alone time to play a game and do official testing hope you understand but when I get time I will do so.


I want to point out yes I give Mantle praise because its potential is very impressive / needed and add to it is a free performance upgrade for us GCN users so patience is needed they are literally redeveloping the wheel given DirectX has been the standard for so many years and DirectX has went stagnant for much of this time with little improvement at all. I also want to piont out the goal of Mantle isn't to be AMD only but to also include Intel / Nvidia and whoever else hince the OPEN SOURCE side of it. The facts are if these other companies refuse it that is theyre loss AMD was good enough to offer when have you ever seen Nvidia / Intel offer any other competitor anything little alone for free especially as game changing as this. AMD / Mantle has went so far as to even offer to work with MICROSOFT free of charge and even LINUX this is all very important and need to look at large picture not just present beta stuff. The facts are I give it praise because of all of these things.
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The newest patch has finally downloaded for me so i'm going to do some more testing, Multi-player is out of the question for me atm but i can still do SP and the Test Range, which is preferable?
 
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Hey guys hoping someone could help me figure this out. I just reinstalled BF4 after a fresh OS install when I switched from ivy to haswell. When I switched from 13.12 to 14.1 I could play both starswarm and BF4 in mantle although they had their share of problems. Now I'm on 14.2 and all the DX11 games I've played are great though there's the problem of downclocking at various points due to the power limit not working correctly as witnessed by others and myself. Now after loading up BF4 for the first time since I was on 14.2 I keep getting the windows error that BF4 has stopped working.

I went into the settings log and switched the mantle reg from 1 to 0 to revert back to DX11 api. But now I'm crashing within a few minutes.
Star swarm is still working though with the mantle api so I don't know if it's mantle related solely for BF4 or a driver / config issue.

My specs
4770k
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Running mantle with ultra v sync off ultra all 200% res scale 1440p 4xmsaa 110hz
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My specs
4770k
3 290x crossfire

Running mantle with ultra v sync off ultra all 200% res scale 1440p 4xmsaa 110hz

Mantle has memory problems and most likely you have blasted through the memory limit, test at 100% scale, msaa off and take it from there.

 

The commandDrender.drawscreeninfo 1  when using Mantle now shows how much vram is being used on each card.r


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Hey guys hoping someone could help me figure this out. I just reinstalled BF4 after a fresh OS install when I switched from ivy to haswell. When I switched from 13.12 to 14.1 I could play both starswarm and BF4 in mantle although they had their share of problems. Now I'm on 14.2 and all the DX11 games I've played are great though there's the problem of downclocking at various points due to the power limit not working correctly as witnessed by others and myself. Now after loading up BF4 for the first time since I was on 14.2 I keep getting the windows error that BF4 has stopped working.

I went into the settings log and switched the mantle reg from 1 to 0 to revert back to DX11 api. But now I'm crashing within a few minutes.
Star swarm is still working though with the mantle api so I don't know if it's mantle related solely for BF4 or a driver / config issue.

My specs
4770k
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Running mantle with ultra v sync off ultra all 200% res scale 1440p 4xmsaa 110hz

I also want to point out again trifire is very buggy with BF4 and even worse with Mantle it is beta they just added 2 card crossfire support officially with 14.2 so 3 card might be later on. I also want to point out Mantle even if only using 2 of the 3 cards in crossfire will act buggy unless 3rd card is physically removed from system so disabling it in CCC wont work Mantle will still try to associate the 3rd card causing all kinds of odd issues. I was told this directly from AMD hince me running only 2 cards otherwise I would have went 3 cards given had option to buy triX OC R9 290X for $575 a few days ago new.
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Well other than the two times that I had to fully uninstall the new drivers in order to fix a weird bug (2 of the 3 screens will go black so that you can still see the mouse pointer but nothing you move it over to them, after a reboot Eyefinity is broken and no matter what setting wont function again). So far happened twice always about two weeks in of use. Other than that the new drivers are working pretty good. All games including BF4 play very well.

Just my personal experience with the new drivers so far.
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Well other than the two times that I had to fully uninstall the new drivers in order to fix a weird bug (2 of the 3 screens will go black so that you can still see the mouse pointer but nothing you move it over to them, after a reboot Eyefinity is broken and no matter what setting wont function again). So far happened twice always about two weeks in of use. Other than that the new drivers are working pretty good. All games including BF4 play very well.

Just my personal experience with the new drivers so far.

Try Ctrl + Alt + Delete next time black screen occurs then open task manager I have gotten this issue before about black screen but still have cursor sometimes you have to do so a few times sometimes have to choose log off option then log back in not reboot it is a bug with windows 7 it all started like 3-5 months back have had this on many machines not even running beta 14.2 or 14.1 drivers but 13.2 and earlier full drivers and so on it has to do with windows 7 itself and eyefinity and in some cases on non eyefinity setups but machines with multiple screens.
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Try Ctrl + Alt + Delete next time black screen occurs then open task manager I have gotten this issue before about black screen but still have cursor sometimes you have to do so a few times sometimes have to choose log off option then log back in not reboot it is a bug with windows 7 it all started like 3-5 months back have had this on many machines not even running beta 14.2 or 14.1 drivers but 13.2 and earlier full drivers and so on it has to do with windows 7 itself and eyefinity and in some cases on non eyefinity setups but machines with multiple screens.

On W8 and yes all the common ways out of simple problems were attempted... No matter if I went into task manager, or changed settings on ccc or even in windows the two outside screens would stay dark. Only upon reboot they would come back on but after such Eyefinity would no longer work. Its not a big deal so far but thank you sir for the opinions though.
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Samsung 850 EVO Samsung 840 EVO Western Digital 1TB Black Western Digital 1 TB Black 
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XSPC AX360 Primochill Revolver Fittings Primochill PETG Tubing Clear Alphacool Pump 
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XSPC AX240 XSPC Raystorm Pro White XSPC Razor 980/980Ti Block Corsair SP120 Quiet Edition 
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Bitspower Water Tank Z-Multi 150 Windows 10 Home Asus PB278Q Corsair K70 RGB 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
EVGA 1000w P2 Fractal Design Define S Logitech G602 Glorious PC Gaming Race Extended Black 
AudioAudioAudio
Schiit Modi 2 JBL LSR305 White Schiit Magni 2 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor Asus H170I-Plus D3 Mini ITX LGA1151 Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive 
Hard DriveCoolingOSKeyboard
Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Microsoft Windows 10 Logitech K800 
PowerCase
Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Fractal Design Node 304 Mini ITX 
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