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I am definently with you on that remember when dx11 was suppose to be biggest thing yet alot of games are still coming out using DX9 or DX10 still till this day and even the ones supporting DX11 dont use but about 1/2-3/4 of DX11's ability / features also still till this day only like 1/2 games that come out are even DX11 so what does that say for DX12 and DX11 has been out since October 22 of 2009 and it has not really been used to its potential nor has it been used much at all in games compared to DX9 or DX10 after being out for 5yrs almost 6yrs.

console limits, let's face it, most of these new games are just console port, so last gen=DX 9 forever........this gen = DX 11 forever(or should I say DX 10?).


exactly even with next gen / current gen games dont utilize but 1/2 - 3/4 of what DX11 can do or brings to table and really doesnt bring much over DX10 so whats to be expected for DX12 us finally seeing most of DX11's ability instead of DX12's ability.

I just have come to the conclusion Microsoft talks alot of crap but never produces look at past 4 itterations of DX and theyre use also how little of theyre abilities did they put to use. Then think about the so called DX12 do you see Microsoft changing way they have done bussiness for over a decade overnight NO. So I dont put much stock in Microsoft and theyre saying they will fully utilize DX12 widespread across windows or games themselfs facts are microsoft doesnt control what Dev's use Devs use what they decide to use / impliment.

The reasons Devs have not fully adopted DX11 is it is complicating to use add to it performance is all over the place also many Devs are truly fed up with Microsoft. To take a new advantage of technically same DX have to jump to another OS version look at win7 DX11 and win8- 8.1 DX11.1 for example this complicates the coding for a game / engine quite a bit little variations in exact same DX version. I want to point out Which has truly upset Devs / programar's and microsoft is doing this nearly yearly now changing stuff making game / engine development constantly have to restart and try to take on next big thing or simply release a incomplete game / engine and try to impliment it later often causing confliction issues and bugs which we all have had and seen.
Edited by rickcooperjr - 3/24/14 at 8:22pm
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Clean update tool? What is that? I uninstalled, boot to safe mode, clean with DDU, boot and install 14.3. Win 8.1 btw.

I just used this:
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Clean-Uninstall-Utility.aspx

Then rebooted, and installed 14.3 - all worked fine.

I used DDU before and it didn't address my issue. The AMD Clean Uninstall thing did.

Edit: Added about my experience with DDU.
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Clean update tool? What is that? I uninstalled, boot to safe mode, clean with DDU, boot and install 14.3. Win 8.1 btw.

I just used this:
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Clean-Uninstall-Utility.aspx

Then rebooted, and installed 14.3 - all worked fine.

I used DDU before and it didn't address my issue. The AMD Clean Uninstall thing did.

Edit: Added about my experience with DDU.


Yeah I noticed DDU didnt work for me either but The AMD clean uninstaller did I didnt say anything because I thought it was a isolated case or even a accident / fluke but apparently it was not.
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Yeah I noticed DDU didnt work for me either but The AMD clean uninstaller did I didnt say anything because I thought it was a isolated case or even a accident / fluke but apparently it was not.

You know from our PMs Rick that I believe a lot of what you say is true, just put across badly.... but you do have a habit of reactively agreeing with almost anything tongue.gif - If it's useful to you, post it for others. Let them decide if it's helped them or not! thumb.gif
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Wasn't aware they fixed/updated it for Win 8/8.1. That tool used to corrupt Win 8 installs forcing you to reformat.
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Wasn't aware they fixed/updated it for Win 8/8.1. That tool used to corrupt Win 8 installs forcing you to reformat.

My testing shows that is corrupts third party sound card drivers under some circumstances. Use with caution.
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Does that include the UNi Xonar (3rd party non-official) drivers for various Asus Xonar cards?
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Sorry to double post but... well, I'm pissed lol.

Just used that amdcleanuputility and now I can't boot into Win 8.1, it pops up really quick with the frowny face and restarts. There's no dumps in the Minidump folder either...

So a warning for you people out there, beware the amdcleanuputility. Guess it's time to make a thread to see if this Win 8.1 can be salvaged. Luckily I've got a Win 7 install on a different HDD.

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Because if you read the warning it cleans your SB drivers too.
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Already fixed it but what does SB drivers have to do with failing to boot into Windows.
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