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Problem is that EA behind anything is never good for consumers therefore I'm inclined to do the opposite out of self preservation

This is also a concern for me, EA are not going to enter into anything that doesn't have a money angle, even though under their new CEO they have been doing some nice things and slightly altering their attitude towards gamers, they are going to want a license fee from anyone using the code in a commercial sense.
So if you create completely free software you will most likely be able to use it without restriction, but as soon as you monetize it, they will want a cut.

I am however excited, always excited about new tech and software that can access it.
reminding me of the old days when coding to the "metal" was the best way of eeking out more performance to make games and applications that could wow any audience smile.gif

anyway the Licensing thing is just a feeling, we will see how it all pans out. AMD have certainly created some waves in the industry this year and I will be glad of a new "tech war" with rival companies thumb.gif
    
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Well I dont know if this is success or failure for amd. It'ike they couldn't optimize their cards to work with dx and openGL so they decided to make their own API. This can go anywhere. If this does wrap dx and transcode dx and open gl games perfectly that would mean a nice performance increase for current gen 7xxx series and with their peice drops these will absolutely a nightmare for Green team. Again if t
is failed like other apis before then amd will lose a huge chunk of customers conaidering nvidia has a better performing cards. They cost more but they are definitely good.

So in two month we will know how this goes. Also if mantle helps devs port games easily from console environment and it actually works. Then I believe this might be a huge technology leap forward for the gaming industry.

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http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2013/09/25/steam-rolling-into-your-living-room/

Nvidia IS jumping on the SteamOS bandwagon though.

They have to, they have no other choice. Imagine them losing a huge chunk of the market because the steam boxes would only be up gradable with AMD video cards? It would be a disaster for them.

And after Linus giving Nvidia the middle finger during that meeting/conference thing, I'm sure they felt stupid.


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We've been told at the GPU14 Tech Day event that the Mantle API is open, so theoretically Nvidia could purpose the technology in their GPUs. It should also make cross-development between PC and console games a lot easier, and also more incredible for those with a high-performance AMD GPU.

http://www.techspot.com/news/54134-amd-launches-mantle-api-to-optimize-pc-gpu-performance.html

Well there you have it. Its now up to Nvidia to either be stubborn and not implement this API in to their cards or to think of the consumers first and what this could mean for Visual Fidelity in the coming years.
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I'll put money on it that NVidia buy's into mantle access. If it's actually worth while.
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Nvidia doesn't need to buy anything, its open source . which means there won't be licensing or royalties etc.
    
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Nvidia doesn't need to buy anything, its open source . which means there won't be licensing or royalties etc.

I think he means "adopt". wink.gif
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Lol gotcha!! Not used to hearing it said in that context.

But yes I agree, Nvidia would have to be full potato to not jump onboard.
    
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Firs time I been excited in a decade about gaming for the PC.
not since the vic20 commondore days.

truesound 3D position with BF4?
I will put some doodoo in my pants when I hear that plane shooting at me.
Mantle for BF4, ouch, that with sound makes 290 a sealed deal for upgrade.
sigh, and I was hoping to wait for 20nm.....

Since I will play Bf4 mainly, this news for Mantle is the best news I could recive with my gaming rig.
that or Jessica Biel decided to get a divorce and call me for a date.
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Well we dont know how well itll actually perform, i dont think it will be that drastic but who knows. Is BF4 going to use the Truesound stuff? Did AMD say that was just a plug and play thing that develoeprs dont even need to worry about?
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It can't be a plug and play thing if it uses 3d coordinates to create hrtf. The audio engine has to support it.

Did they say bf4 was going to use it?
    
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