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If you do some simple googling, you will will find such topics as "Nvidia apologizes for Tomb Raider performance" in said story you will read how AMD didn't give them access to the code until a few days before launch. Indeed, the game ran like total ass when it first came out. Now it runs flawlessly with near perfect GPU scaling.


edit: It's been more than weeks. It's been months, across multiple threads. All full of loose associations, ramblings, & general assumption.

suddenly when amd did this amd is all bad and evil while nvidia has been doing this for years...
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suddenly when amd did this amd is all bad and evil while nvidia has been doing this for years...

they have both been doing it to each other for a long time.

Like the newest Batman. I hear that ran like total dog ass for the first few weeks for AMD users.

I know many assume because I have a titan i'm a blind fan boy with only one allegiance. Such is not the case. I buy the best possible thing I can when it's time to upgrade. Titans seemed like a great option when the launched in comparison to 7970's or 680's. Was coming from 480's.
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Who gives a five lol. I just find it hilarious the biggest NV crazy powers have entered the thread to set some silly crap straight.
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Obviously not referring to me. Iv'e been following the thread since the first few pages, in hopes that mantle does great things. Iv'e even lined up someone who will do a straight trade of 3x titans for 3x 290x's.
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Doesnt matter. I had physx SMOKE. A lot of SMOKE

I hear with a decent CPU you can do all your physX w/o any real affect to FPS.
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So much non Mantle related posts about crypto garbage today a friend of mine told me about the Silk Road as site that deals in drugs really all those crypto garbage is a bad influence on the world. Russian mafia, drug networks and who knows what other nightmares are supported by this.

Just get back to our Mantle discussion btw only 1 month and a week left for Thief to drop.

And Skupples cool that you have a degree in Physics thumb.gif

Yes, crypto got it's start by funding the deep web black market trade.

If ricky can't give picture proof of his mine due to NDA he could easily link a screenshot of all his miners reporting in. That would not breach NDA in any way shape or form.
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well got tired of having 4 gcn gpus waiting around for mantle, so i decided before the return period expired i would rebox up two of my r9 280'x and send them back for something else. i kept my gigabytes and sent back the xfx ones due to the fact the crossfire fingers are in a retarded location and you have to bend and cut stuff to make all that work. so i sent them back and my new package arived today, evga gtx780ti sc edition. all i can say is yummy, and holly rusted metal batman, just one of these gpus is eating up all my games and putting a hurtin on my crossfire r9 280x's. scray to think what would happen when i buy another one!!!!!! i still have faith in mantle reason why i kept my original two r9's but all this its com its not coming its coming its not coming, im ready to play now, period.... side note

that gtx780ti is a monster!!!! i hated to go there but it is!!!
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well got tired of having 4 gcn gpus waiting around for mantle, so i decided before the return period expired i would rebox up two of my r9 280'x and send them back for something else. i kept my gigabytes and sent back the xfx ones due to the fact the crossfire fingers are in a retarded location and you have to bend and cut stuff to make all that work. so i sent them back and my new package arived today, evga gtx780ti sc edition. all i can say is yummy, and holly rusted metal batman, just one of these gpus is eating up all my games and putting a hurtin on my crossfire r9 280x's. scray to think what would happen when i buy another one!!!!!! i still have faith in mantle reason why i kept my original two r9's but all this its com its not coming its coming its not coming, im ready to play now, period.... side note

that gtx780ti is a monster!!!! i hated to go there but it is!!!

I know how you feel. All this delaying is making me also wanting to sell and go 780ti. if they release Mantle today it would mean that people can actually recommend AMD cards for a change. I hate AMD/Dice/EA/Frostbite ATM cause they just speak without letting us taste it for ourselfs. This is such BS. I get some drops in my ames to like 75 but I must admit i'm playing on 2560x1440 @ 96Hz and trying to do ultra. I mean I bought 2x R9-280x to play game on ultra. My cards and cpu is strong enough just that Directx is bottlenecking now. AMD is not in the best possision that's why they have a huge loss now. The longer they delay mantle the worse it it is so I suggest they release it now and optimize or fix later. I hate AMD/Dice/EA keeping quiet about this patch
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I know how you feel. All this delaying is making me also wanting to sell and go 780ti. if they release Mantle today it would mean that people can actually recommend AMD cards for a change. I hate AMD/Dice/EA/Frostbite ATM cause they just speak without letting us taste it for ourselfs. This is such BS. I get some drops in my ames to like 75 but I must admit i'm playing on 2560x1440 @ 96Hz and trying to do ultra. I mean I bought 2x R9-280x to play game on ultra. My cards and cpu is strong enough just that Directx is bottlenecking now. AMD is not in the best possision that's why they have a huge loss now. The longer they delay mantle the worse it it is so I suggest they release it now and optimize or fix later. I hate AMD/Dice/EA keeping quiet about this patch

i know what you mean on the fps drops. i literaly watched my r9's loose clock speeds the hotter they got. and i mean massive dropps not just 2 or three hertz im talking 150 to 275 hertz. fps would drop accordingly. so to compinsate i had to bring the fan speeds way up to try and cool things off so i can keep my fps up wich ment fan noise went threw the roof, and im talking in game not bench marks. if your only doing a couple of hours here and there no big deal, but when you get with buddies to do a all day binge play talking 18 hours or more depending on how long the drinks last, lol. i started seeing alot of drops and choppines in fps. so yes mantle needs to step up big time at this point. sinply to fix that problem alone. one of my boys lan box he usses for our game binges has a 780ti his little box was ripping all day long. so like i said i sent two of my r9s back and got a 780ti. i benched my 780ti and then ran it the same way i ran my r9's aka binge gaming with the boys and it was flawless. when gpu heated up never lost mor than like .4 or .5 hertz when throttling as they say and funny thing when my gpu was at its peek heat i should say wich was never more than 75 degrees c. my fps actulay went up a couple fps.

so without this mantle api and what it says it can do on paper right now paying the extra price for a nvidia gpu is looking more and more worth the it, and it realy sucks for me to say that cause i jumped shipped after my gtx580's to amd simply over the price to performance deal. this is just my opion though based on both my systems at this point. i wont even get into the issues i have trying to play ghosts with my r9's crossfired or single mode. my very old and forgotten gtx 460se ripped them apart in that game, and i know ghosts in its self is a hot mess of a game.
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i think battlefield 4 is such a mess we should actually Take thief as the first real mantle enabled game. i must say the Graphics in BF4 doesn't even look that good in my eyes. I bet they skimmed on the graphics. maybe mantle will make the game look better because you have less systems usage overall so you can do more with the same hardware. I bet if they release Mantle this month it will be like the 20th or so.
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i think battlefield 4 is such a mess we should actually Take thief as the first real mantle enabled game. i must say the Graphics in BF4 doesn't even look that good in my eyes. I bet they skimmed on the graphics. maybe mantle will make the game look better because you have less systems usage overall so you can do more with the same hardware. I bet if they release Mantle this month it will be like the 20th or so.

uhhhhhhh, its past the 20th..... buddy... thumb.gif and guess what? still speculation!!!
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i think battlefield 4 is such a mess we should actually Take thief as the first real mantle enabled game. i must say the Graphics in BF4 doesn't even look that good in my eyes. I bet they skimmed on the graphics. maybe mantle will make the game look better because you have less systems usage overall so you can do more with the same hardware. I bet if they release Mantle this month it will be like the 20th or so.

This is the Recommended Specs for Thief:

Recommended:
OS: Windows 7, Windows 8
Processor: AMD FX 8000 series or better / Intel Quad i7 Core CPU
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Graphics: AMD Radeon HD R9 series or better / Nvdia GTX 660 series or better
DirectX: Version 11
Hard Drive: 20 GB available space

I know because i just pre-ordered it.

Here is BF4's by comparison:

Recommended requirements:

OS: WINDOWS 8 64-BIT
PROCESSOR: AMD SIX-CORE CPU, INTEL QUAD-CORE CPU
MEMORY: 8 GB
GRAPHICS CARD: AMD RADEON HD 7870, NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 660
GRAPHICS MEMORY: 3 GB
HARD DRIVE: 30 GB

Almost identical apart from Thief wanting a better CPU......kinda strange though considering that Mantle is supposed to remove the CPU bottle neck from the equation isn't it?
 
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