Originally Posted by maarten12100
Originally Posted by skupples
They released GCN 1.1 because the fabled 20nm won't be hitting until 2015. (from either company)
Tap out starts Q2 2014 (and is actually already happening for the big names like Apple) with AMD tapping out 14nm for ultra mobile late this year you can bet they'll tap out gpus on 20nm this year and release them before the end of 2014..
Hey Skupples I bet you didnt know that AMD got priority at the foundries over Intel and a few other companies did you thanx to the win on the big 3 gaming consoles that meens they will get priority on die shrinks over Intel and another hint the V2 version of PS4 and XboxONE are in the works for a die shrink this year and clocks raised and performance increased even more and better efficiency with less heat. I also want to point out what did I tell you either this morning or yesterday in a PM about late Q3 into Q4 was going on with AMD Graphics this year remember past few releases of GPU's have been late Q3 or Q4 and this last release was a revision / rebranding with a hint at GCN2.0 what do you thinks coming up.
I also want to point out I know Intel has theyre own foundries but they also use other foundries that other companies use for large high priority orders of chips that theyre foundries cant do or keep up with. That will get even worse since Intel are wanting to team up with apple and make apples chips also this will force them to use other foundries even more to keep up with demand on Intels own chips and with AMD going to have priority over Intel in these other foundries what do you see the outcome being.
I also want to point out Intel is trying to move into the mobile / server area as top priority because they feel PC side is dying horribly or they arent able to compete with APU's which will take over laptop / netbook / oem desktop market a huge part of Intels income if that is taken away from Intel they will be forced into the mobile / server market for 70% or more of theyre income what this meens is the PC side of Intel will get the shaft as they have past few releases with little improvement or advancement and huge movement towards mobile side.
A Example of the movement I refer to is Haswell more or less a laptop CPU for a desktop that is hardpressed to compete with a new version AMD APU for multiple uses including budget gaming rigs without using dedicated GPU's AMD's latest IGPU runs circles around Intels. So do the math which do you see getting next OEM win on laptops / OEM desktops / and netbooks in general and remember the FTC / Anti Trust group put a halt to Intels illegaly blocking AMD also other companies and is watching Intel like a hawk so OEM companies will likely lean towards AMD APU's for OEM's this time around for price to performance ratio hurting Intels income alot.
Intel seriously trying to move over to mobile market and get away from laptop / netbook / desktops http://seekingalpha.com/article/1955211-intel-please-give-up-on-mobile
again Intel taking huge loses trying to break into mobile market http://seekingalpha.com/news/1436181-intel-reportedly-planning-1b-in-tablet-cpu-marketing-subsidies
$1.1 BILLION to be exact of lossesEdited by rickcooperjr - 1/25/14 at 7:57pm