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I just got 3 120hz lightboost displays for portrait eyefinity.

I was waiting for today to decide whether to upgrade my 7950's (1180 core) to sli 780 or the new amd offering. I haven't been green in a few gen's but I keep leaning that way and AMD always pulls me back with the price to performance ratio.

Now I don't no what to do, even when we see benchmarks for the reference R9-290, who knows what it will be afterwards with mantle, or my 7000 series cards.

9x perforance boost? How does one gauge that?

I can't help but think this is a gimmick of some kind.....''buy our card now and wait to see how it performs in December!''. Aside from that, it seems like Glide/Voodoo all over again.

Now I'm tempted to keep my 7950's or even sell them off and grab a higher overclocker 7970's and see what the new API brings. But my gut is telling me to go 780 sli or wait for R9-290.

Which brings me to my last point.

Why...Why...Why.....does AMD wait until AFTER a flagship game is released to offer their card? A card that is touted and sponsored by Dice/EA. A card that is flagship and ''needed'' for BF4. If the card came out today, good luck getting a couple by Oct. 29. At this point most will be lucky to get one by late Nov, early Dec, and those are the reference models with crap coolers. The best offerings most likely wont be out until Christmas/New Year.(when their api update for bf4 will be released)

How do they plan to turn those who were waiting to decide now and go 780? Nvidia will take a nice slice of BF4 initial gpu sales as AMD wont even have a high end card on shelves at launch.

They continue to make me address my forehead with my palm
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the 290x should launch in mid oct right befor bf4 does how many are in stores will be another thing i bet they are sold out fast and you wont be able to get one easy till jan 2014 i for one think mantle *could* be a very good thing for the games that do use it sence it will make porting games from xbox one and ps4 alot easyer it would seem without having crappy performace but it will depend on how much extra work they have to do to make games run on everything only the 7xxx and up cards will be able to use it.
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the 290x should launch in mid oct right befor bf4 does how many are in stores will be another thing i bet they are sold out fast and you wont be able to get one easy till jan 2014


My point exactly, Its YOUR sponsored game, its YOUR new tech and yet you launch it a week before release knowing supply will not meet demand? Also when will we see OC SC versions from MSI/ASUS/HIS/SAPPHIRE

How many people are going to go 780 so they're ready to play? It reminds me of an Apple Iphone launch where people have to wait in line to be cool so they can have it knowing the rest of the world won't see stock for 90 days.
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My point exactly, Its YOUR sponsored game, its YOUR new tech and yet you launch it a week before release knowing supply will not meet demand? Also when will we see OC SC versions from MSI/ASUS/HIS/SAPPHIRE

How many people are going to go 780 so they're ready to play? It reminds me of an Apple Iphone launch where people have to wait in line to be cool so they can have it knowing the rest of the world won't see stock for 90 days.

kinda how computers work im not sure what took amd so long to get this out but most launches are limited in supply who knows maybe they been waiting so they could have more cards ready when they are released. I figure reason that mantle wont be out till dec is because thats when amd store stock should be higher and can get more sales for the game and gpus for that time of the year maybe. And gives them a chance to come out and say see our gpus are faster then a titan or somthing along those lines after drivers are a little more mature 7xxx sales really took off once amd got the drivers to work better and all games got a boost making the 7970 faster then the 680.
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Rubbish

New gpu's are still GCN same architecture as the 79xx series. Drivers ''in theory'' shouldn't be an issue although this is amd were talking about.

They have been scrubbing their console asses and working on the bottom $ which is 12 year olds playing COD on xbox live one..or one live xbox or whatever.

I suppose I'm just pissy that it took almost 2 years and still no official specs, release, or price range. I want the 4gb mem for eyefinity but not sure how long I can wait.
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Rubbish

New gpu's are still GCN same architecture as the 79xx series. Drivers ''in theory'' shouldn't be an issue although this is amd were talking about.

They have been scrubbing their console asses and working on the bottom $ which is 12 year olds playing COD on xbox live one..or one live xbox or whatever.

I suppose I'm just pissy that it took almost 2 years and still no official specs, release, or price range. I want the 4gb mem for eyefinity but not sure how long I can wait.

lol should know my now computers are always a waiting game you wait and wait or buy and buy depends how much your wallet can handle.
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Mantle itself probably isn't worth fussing over within just the next few months. I would wait for aftermarket cooled 290X's (water or air) and decide at that point which is better. If you want to know the best choice, all you can do is wait sadly. Try and find a project in the mean time, like case modding, watercooling and stuff, and you'll find your time pretty well consumed until then tongue.gif
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