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Phanteks TC14CS vs TC12DX.

post #1 of 19
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Is there a big difference in the cooling ability between these two? I will only be using one of the fans for either of them. I would like to buy the TC14CS so the airflow will keep the motherboard's VRM cool but not if the processor cooling potential is significantly worse.
post #2 of 19
CS will cool CPU better but the problem is removing it's heated exhaust air without it mixing with cool air in case. Downflow coolers spread the air everywhere. Reversing the fans usually works better especially if case has an exhaust vent over the cooler fan to exhaust heated air.

Why are you looking at these two coolers versus others? There are plenty of simple ways to get good airflow over motherboard heatsinks.
post #3 of 19
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I was going to buy the true spirit 140 but I don't think it will fit in my case and it will probably get really close to the first pci-e slot as it's a micro atx motherboard.

I really like the design of the mounting on these phanteks coolers so I decided on them. The board that I chose only has 4 phase power so I wanted to make sure that I kept them as cool as possible and the top-down coolers do just that. An example I found:



How much cooler will the CS keep the processor? Are we talking 2C at overclocked speeds or something like 6C+? Do you have any alternatives to recommend?
post #4 of 19
Without knowing what your system is I will not make any recommendations. Micro ATX CPU socket placement is not standardized for one, RAM height, case cooling design & clearances, GPU design, etc.
post #5 of 19
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

Without knowing what your system is I will not make any recommendations. Micro ATX CPU socket placement is not standardized for one, RAM height, case cooling design & clearances, GPU design, etc.

Case = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146083&Tpk=nzxt%20source%20220

Motherboard = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128601

Ram = http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148656

Not sure how the GPU would matter if a cooler interfered with the PCI-e slot then none of them will fit tongue.gif.
post #6 of 19
GPUs have different kind of cooling systems. Reference cards generally have blower fans and force the air out the back while most have normal fans pulling air into the side of GPU. For someone with so many rep points I'm surprised you don't have a basic understanding of all this.
post #7 of 19
Why a micro ATX mobo in an ATX case?

Your link for case doesn't say what CPU clearance is. I need to know that.
post #8 of 19
GA-Z87MX-D3H has 3 PCI-E x16 slots so it doesn't matter if firs slot is blocked unless you plan to run 2 cards.

Crucial Ballistix Tactical is short enough to clear most if not all coolers. Not sure a cooler fan on top of RAM will clear side cover until I know what CPU clearance is. CPU clearance plus 8mm is distance from motherboard to side cover.
post #9 of 19
What do you think about Silverstone Ar03, Prolimatech Megahalems, DeepCool Neptwin, Noctua NH U12S, Scythe Mugen 3, Xigmatek Aegir, Xigmatke Venus, Coolink Corator DS, Zalman CNPS12X?

check their performance here

Mid Range
http://www.overclock.net/t/1386288/guide-budget-mid-range-and-high-end-heatsink-choice-price-performance#post_19848045
High End
http://www.overclock.net/t/1386288/guide-budget-mid-range-and-high-end-heatsink-choice-price-performance#post_19848046

P.S Cpu Cooler clereance is +/- 159.5 mm. http://www.overclockers.com/nzxt-source-220
Edited by PontiacGTX - 9/26/13 at 8:34am
post #10 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

GPUs have different kind of cooling systems. Reference cards generally have blower fans and force the air out the back while most have normal fans pulling air into the side of GPU. For someone with so many rep points I'm surprised you don't have a basic understanding of all this.

The type of CPU cooler has no relation to what cooler the GPU uses. If the cpu socket is too close to the first PCI-E slot then it will make contact with the PCB of the GPU, not the cooler. You're off topic and being rude.
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Why a micro ATX mobo in an ATX case?
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I already own the case, but will be purchasing a micro atx case in the near future. For now this is what will be used so it needs to fit.
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GA-Z87MX-D3H has 3 PCI-E x16 slots so it doesn't matter if firs slot is blocked unless you plan to run 2 cards.

It matters to me, I don't want the first slot blocked.
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