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Intel Xeon E3 1230 V2 vs i5-4670k

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    Xeon E3 1230V2
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    i5-4670k
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post #1 of 10
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So in the next couple of months, I plan on selling most of my FX-8350 system toward a quieter, smaller Matx build in a SilverStone Temjin Series TJ08B-E. My current predicament is this, I can get a E3 1230 V2 or a i5-4670k from Microcenter both for the same price. Do you think the extra cache and hyperthreading beats out the overclockability of the i5 for gaming? This rig wont have a cpu swapped out for a good 5 years, so I want it to last.

Also does anyone know if the Xeon's get motherboard combo deals at microcenter? Doesn't say on their website tongue.gif

And any good recommendations for a good cheapish($70-110) matx board if I get the 1230? obviously with that, overclocking won't be needed, but I dont want to skimp on the board...

Any help would be appreciated biggrin.gif
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post #5 of 10
I vote the haswell I5:

Cache:
If using it for games the best bang for the buck will come with the haswell i5. Looking through benchmarks not too many things rely on cache. The ones that do tend to be not extremely interesting (like file compression/ uncompression). The cache on the haswells I do believed are improved in terms of hit/miss. So less cache, but better.

Clocks:
If you keeping the cpu for 5 years, the i5 will also win out. Although right now depending on the games you play you might not be bottlenecking due to cpu. Its reasonable that you may upgrade your gpu(s) in the future. Doing so tax out the cpu, which can be potentially fixed by overclocking the i5. With the xeon your stuck at stock.

Hyperthreading:
As for hyperthreading, currently many games don't make use/very good use of the added threads, aka they tap out the 4 physical cores pretty efficiently. In time, especially with the core count going up in consoles, its plausible that games are going to be more threaded. This may mean that hyperthreading may help, however good chance you'll still just be tapped out on 4 physical cores regardless.

As for quieter, that will depend entirely on your cooling solution. Overclocked haswells get hot, you could hit a thermal limit before you tap out the processor. I understand the 8350 is similar when overclocked. It might come down between cooling performance/noise vs costs. Just something to keep in mind.
post #6 of 10
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Originally Posted by Servos View Post

I vote the haswell I5:

Cache:
If using it for games the best bang for the buck will come with the haswell i5. Looking through benchmarks not too many things rely on cache. The ones that do tend to be not extremely interesting (like file compression/ uncompression). The cache on the haswells I do believed are improved in terms of hit/miss. So less cache, but better.

Clocks:
If you keeping the cpu for 5 years, the i5 will also win out. Although right now depending on the games you play you might not be bottlenecking due to cpu. Its reasonable that you may upgrade your gpu(s) in the future. Doing so tax out the cpu, which can be potentially fixed by overclocking the i5. With the xeon your stuck at stock.

Hyperthreading:
As for hyperthreading, currently many games don't make use/very good use of the added threads, aka they tap out the 4 physical cores pretty efficiently. In time, especially with the core count going up in consoles, its plausible that games are going to be more threaded. This may mean that hyperthreading may help, however good chance you'll still just be tapped out on 4 physical cores regardless.

As for quieter, that will depend entirely on your cooling solution. Overclocked haswells get hot, you could hit a thermal limit before you tap out the processor. I understand the 8350 is similar when overclocked. It might come down between cooling performance/noise vs costs. Just something to keep in mind.

Thanks for the info! biggrin.gif

I have little knowledge nor experience with overclocking on the Intel side of things, do you think that an overclock of 4.5 would be doable with a H80i?

and again thanks for the help tongue.gif
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post #7 of 10
Check out: http://www.overclock.net/t/1411077/haswell-overclocking-thread-with-statistics

Good when you go to oc, but right now take note of the google doc spreadsheet. Many peps are getting 4.5+, however it looks like high end air coolers/ H100(i) are the more popular choices. It might work, but the better the cooler, the better off ya'd be.

If your not too put off on a refurb:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1429537/newegg-shell-shocker-deal-corsair-h100-refurb-55-fs

$55, not bad.
post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by Servos View Post

Check out: http://www.overclock.net/t/1411077/haswell-overclocking-thread-with-statistics

Good when you go to oc, but right now take note of the google doc spreadsheet. Many peps are getting 4.5+, however it looks like high end air coolers/ H100(i) are the more popular choices. It might work, but the better the cooler, the better off ya'd be.

If your not too put off on a refurb:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1429537/newegg-shell-shocker-deal-corsair-h100-refurb-55-fs

$55, not bad.

I'd jump on it, but it would require some major modifications to the case im going to use tongue.gif thanks for the links
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post #9 of 10
No problem.
post #10 of 10
i5 for overclock ability and better features on Z87 vs Z77 mobos
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