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Please don't do a 50/50 (Vinegar/Water) mix unless you want to ruin your waterblocks and radiators....

Use a mix of 80-90% water and 10-20% vinegar.
    
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Is vinegar susceptible to attack PVC tubing/ acrylic reservoir/ waterblock seals (rubber probably)?

I used it to remove some oxidation from the CPU block but doing it in a fully assembled block might weaken the sealing between the block`s parts.

I just run with a silver coil and I am due for a purge. I haven`t seen anything so far... It seems to work. I used to replace all the tubing every 6 months, at the same time I was reorganizing my loop. I don`t have the time for that now.
I would rather just run half an hour with some vinegar in the loop to clean the thing.
Edited by Just a nickname - 9/27/13 at 5:11am
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I am no expert on watercooling and have only been doing this about a year or so now, but here is my experience.

I have only been using a kill-coil and distilled water in my loop since it was built. I have no algae and my water is crystal clear, even after 6 months. I don't have problems with plasticizer accumulation or anything else. My loop has been trouble free for a year now.
    
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I am no expert on watercooling and have only been doing this about a year or so now, but here is my experience.

I have only been using a kill-coil and distilled water in my loop since it was built. I have no algae and my water is crystal clear, even after 6 months. I don't have problems with plasticizer accumulation or anything else. My loop has been trouble free for a year now.

To be honest mate, they aren't that good... You might just be lucky.

PT Nuke is always the best more sure bet.
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To be honest mate, they aren't that good... You might just be lucky.

PT Nuke is always the best more sure bet.

You might have had bad experience with silver coil but I never saw anything in my loop beside plasticizer. You have to put the silver coil in front of the pump inlet. Silver is a very effective and natural biocide... It is even used in hospital, its power has no need to be proven hence the reason I am wondering why you say it is not effective...?
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Number one, I know where you're meant to put it, Oh is that an egg there for me?

Number two, I know they use it in hospitals in plasters etc

Number three, PT nuke works better, simple as.
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To be honest mate, they aren't that good... You might just be lucky.

PT Nuke is always the best more sure bet.

Just based on my experience, I can't agree. I am going to run the kill coil until I start having problems.

I have read shows that PT Nuke (and other chemical bio inhibitors) seem to have more downsides than a kill coil. (I pulled my comment about leaching out because I last honestly looked a year ago and could be wrong. that is what I deleted)

Again, I am not trying to tout my 1 year of experience with a small loop as an "authoritative" position, but at the same time, I can't see how you can call crystal clear water after a year as a case of "luck", when from my perspective, it is just science.
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If you want crystal clear water in your loops (even after 1-2 years of usage) just use pokemons instead of kill coil or biocide, nothing beats pokemons thumb.gif

OT: I've been using AntiCorro for the past ~6 years and never had issues.
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Number one, I know where you're meant to put it, Oh is that an egg there for me?

Number two, I know they use it in hospitals in plasters etc

Number three, PT nuke works better, simple as.

In your own opinion/experience. Don't say silver coil doesn't work/is shiet. You had a bad experience, I can tell you there was also bad reports on PT nuke.

The real advantage with the silver coil is that it will last forever... granted it work as intended.

@zamoldac, Mixing glycol (anti-freeze) with your water will also act as an anti-oxidant. It's extremely cheap but like any additive, it will reduce the heat transfer capacity of the liquid. It's also widely used for car engine cooling system (increase boiling point and reduces freezing point while protecting the metal).
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To be honest mate, they aren't that good... You might just be lucky.

PT Nuke is always the best more sure bet.

You might have had bad experience with silver coil but I never saw anything in my loop beside plasticizer. You have to put the silver coil in front of the pump inlet. Silver is a very effective and natural biocide... It is even used in hospital, its power has no need to be proven hence the reason I am wondering why you say it is not effective...?

Silver Oxide is a proven. I don't think anyone has proven the silver kill coil to be effective. But there is plenty of evidence that it an cause problems. Much less evidence of CuSO4 causing problems. I have seen first hand what a silver kill coil can do in a completely copper/brass loop in less than 1 year. CuSO4 is not going to cause or accelerate problems in a copper/brass only loop and is less likely to cause issues with nickel than silver. There is a simple explanation for this... just look to the galvanic corrosion chart.


Want to severely reduce the chance of algae without increasing your chances of corrosion then you use PHN (Clear PTNuke) if you want to kill algae and reduce your chances of galvanic corrosion then use Ethylene Glycol (Feser Base, Dazmode Protector, Mayhems XT-1 Concentrate, or Swiftech Hydrx Concentrate).

Personally I consider Algae less of a concern than corrosion.

As far as using vinegar it can be dangerous and that is very hard to dispute. You leave it in too long or the temps get too high or you have to much of it or it mixes with certain metals and it becomes an issue quickly and for the most part it is unnecessary.

If you really want to clean out your loop then you buy an adapter to hook up tubing to your faucet and you run hot water through the loop then flush it a few times with distilled water then treat. Most people probably don't want to spend the money on extra tubing adapters and hose couplers to do this but your gear is worth it.
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