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Bill Gates has described the decision to use Ctrl+Alt+Del as the command needed to log on to a PC as a mistake.

Originally designed to trigger a reboot of a PC, it survives in the Windows 8 operating system as the command to access the task manager toolbar and is still used in older versions to log on.

In an interview, the Microsoft co-founder blamed IBM for the shortcut, saying he had favoured a single button.

The keyboard shortcut was invented by IBM engineer David Bradley.

Originally he had favoured Ctrl+Alt+Esc, but he found it was too easy to bump the left side of the keyboard and reboot the computer accidentally so switched to Ctrl+Alt+Del because it was impossible to press with just one hand.

Source - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24283185

Bit of a cop out, they could have changed it years ago, especially when keyboard manufacturers started making the 105-key Windows keyboards (why do we need 2 Windows keys?!?), not to mention keyboards with sleep/power off keys. I think Microsoft became big enough to start calling the shots back when Windows 95 came out. Still, interesting to get his perspective on things
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Well, ctrl alt del made sense up to NT, since even in Win95/98, pressing it twice would reboot the computer. I guess afterwards nobody asked if it was still relevant and they kept it?
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saw this on the verge....my thing, if he knows its completely retarded...why was he still allowing it all the way up to now..sure he isnt in the development cycle anymore, but he is still a board member and can prob get anything he wants.
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This article is very unclear about... the subject itself. What does Bill Gates think exactly ? They article mixes rebooting with logging on to the system and at the end I didn't understand what Bill Gates thinks is a mistake.

Rebooting ? Not at all, Ctrl+Allt+Del makes perfect sense for the exact original reason given. I don't use it much anymore since in Windows 7 (or since Windows Vista, I'm not sure) hitting this key combination no longer brings up the Task Manager in one action, so I started using Ctrl+Shift+Esc, which kind of feels similar in that it's two keys more or less close together with one farther apart. This combination wouldn't suit rebooting though as the keys are all on the same side of the keyboard.

Anyway, hitting Ctrl+Alt+Del to log on, now that can probably be seen as a mistake, but then again, I don't think that creating a custom key is necessarily good. Why one more key when you can achieve the same effect with a well known combination. And speaking of that, even though the purpose was different, Ctrl+Alt+Del is a pretty well known combination, so...

Edit, ok, I just read the first comment on the Reddit page that shows up when you click the link in the article, and it was that comment that actually made sense of the article (by referring to what Bill Gates was actually talking about).
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If you actually watch the interview, Bill Gates is responding to the interviewers annoyance with the usage of Ctrl+Alt+Del for logging into Windows NT, and that is what Bill Gates is referring to as a mistake. I think the key combination's being use in interrupting faulting programs and Restarting the computer is not a mistake in Gates's mind.

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I'd imagine they don't change it to keep uniformity. Everybody knows what the command does by now, no point dealing with the confusion that would come with changing such an insignificant issue.

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so switched to Ctrl+Alt+Del because it was impossible to press with just one hand.

confused.gif I can hit it just fine with one hand...
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Ye, if you use the right ctrl and right alt, you can reach the del button as well.

Ctrl+shift+esc is better though.
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Originally Posted by Stealth Pyros View Post

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so switched to Ctrl+Alt+Del because it was impossible to press with just one hand.

confused.gif I can hit it just fine with one hand...

Maybe only Left-Shift+Left-Alt+Del was possible back in the day?
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Must be a slow news day. I hope Bill does another Reddit appearance. It was pretty cool when he did a bit of q&a.

Anyway...never really bothered me to use it in either capacity. Don't have to use the combo now as much as back in the Win 95 days thats for sure.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealth Pyros View Post

confused.gif I can hit it just fine with one hand...

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Originally Posted by B!0HaZard View Post

Ye, if you use the right ctrl and right alt, you can reach the del button as well.

Ctrl+shift+esc is better though.

The early keyboards from the era where the shortcut was designed did not have two sets of Ctrl and Alt keys. The only set was on the left.
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