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I have built several machines for myself over the years, and I have always ran with stock settings, being too intimidated to try to overclock my machines. That said, I recently joined the dual core community with the following build:

-ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI
-AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Windsor 2.2GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache
-CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB(2 x 512) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 533 (PC2 4200)
-eVGA 256-P2-N615-TX GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCIEx16 Video Card

Now, one would think that this machine should be a very fast machine, and for the most part it is.. The main thing that drew me to dual core was the reports I had read by other users of the ability to run multiple programs simultaneously with virtually no lag. I like to run a lot at the same time, and so I thought this would be wonderful... However, I am not getting the same results that others reported, and I am not sure why. When I run a program, and set it to do something, opening another app. always slows down both.

You will get added to my personal list of heroes, and get good vibes sent your way for weeks to come by yours truly if you can help me with this... I am trying to get a grasp on all this so that I can best maximize my performance with my given hardware, but I am having a hard time finding a complete and definitive guide. (If you know of one, please post it for me)

I thought perhaps that some of my probs might be coming from the fact that I am using fairly cheap Ram, and if so, great, I will go out and by more, but before I do I wanted to check some forums, cuz I almost never seem to exhaust my ram in the task manager, and the cpu usage does not really go over 50%...Which acts like the thing is using only 1 core...

-I have upgraded bios, and chipset drivers, just prior to OS installation, and after.
-I installed AMD optimizer for dual core.
-My ASUS board comes with overclocking software, and with it I have the CPU running at a little over 2.3 ghz, stable and cool...

Now for my questions:

-Is there an ideal mem clock speed, bus speed and multiplier to be running that will best match the MOBO, RAM, and Video Card I am using?
-Is there a way to figure this out on ones own, and what steps would one follow to do this?
-What steps do you follow when optimizing a machine for performance and stability? (again if there is a good guide out there, please post link)

I guess that is it for now. As I said before, your advice is greatly appreciated.
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Well, what programs are you running? You may be running out of RAM doing that. Check your RAM usage in task manager.
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Instead of using your OCing software that came with the board, its always better to do it within the BIOS. Allows you to tinker with the CPU's Voltage(VCore) and stuff like that.
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I agree with KSIM, ram on a dulie can be killer. Most people i know now run a gig of ram with a single core.

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hmmm what build of windows xp your installing?you really need the latest one as far as my knowlege goes for the dual core utilization by windows.
also make sure that you dont have too many proccess's running in the background.not more then 60 lol,i seen people with 70 and 80 diffrent proccesss and there dual cories slowed down like pies.
also,most people have moved from a old single core to a new dual core = big huge diffrence in performance.
on the other hand some people i seen with for example an athlon 3700+ overclocked to like 2.8 ghz didnt really see/report THAT much of game/app speed boost (not multipli-useage) when they moved to dual cores.
run optimizer programs for your windows!such as tuneup utilities 2006 and such,they REALLY do help (sorry if your already using them,most people dont lol) they help your windows keep clean,which you should learn to do manually,keep it clean from virus's and trojans and such stuff.
    
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Wow!! Thanks for all the responses. I am not at my machine now as I am at work, but I added what I know of my specs to the profile, and will add the rest later. It is a pretty new install of windows XP Pro, though probably not the latest version. Is there an update I need to make the dual core run in XP. There are not a lot of processes running in the background... I am pretty good about keeping things clean, and no how to disable unwanted background garbage. The ram might be the issue... Should I get more, or should I get faster ram?

My old machine was an AMD 3200+ venice, with 1 gb of ram.

I guess what I was hoping for help with, was what settings I might want to run with on my machine from the bios.. mem clock, bus clock, voltage, multiplier ect. Pretty much all is adjustable on my motherboard... and I was hoping for some guidance or a guide that could help me... Thanks for all the responses so far...
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Wow!! Thanks for all the responses. I am not at my machine now as I am at work, but I added what I know of my specs to the profile, and will add the rest later. It is a pretty new install of windows XP Pro, though probably not the latest version. Is there an update I need to make the dual core run in XP. There are not a lot of processes running in the background... I am pretty good about keeping things clean, and no how to disable unwanted background garbage. The ram might be the issue... Should I get more, or should I get faster ram?

My old machine was an AMD 3200+ venice, with 1 gb of ram.

I guess what I was hoping for help with, was what settings I might want to run with on my machine from the bios.. mem clock, bus clock, voltage, multiplier ect. Pretty much all is adjustable on my motherboard... and I was hoping for some guidance or a guide that could help me... Thanks for all the responses so far...
As much as people try to prove me wrong, more memory is better than faster memory. except when you go past 2GB, at least for now...
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Ok, so are you saying that you think the issue is not enough RAM, that I need to get up to 2 gb, to take full advantage of the dual-coreness of my machine? Or is there a way that I can tweak the settings in my bios to better utilize that which I currently have?
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Well, lets see what kind of scores you are getting in benchmarks first. download sisoftware sandra: http://www.sisoftware.co.uk/index.ht...64&langx=en&a=
When you download it, run the CPU test, and post a screenshot of it. Just for giggles, I'll do the same thing.
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Here are the multi core test results...


SiSoftware Sandra

Benchmark Results
Inter-Core Bandwidth : 2517 MB/s
Results Interpretation : Higher index values are better.
Inter-Core Latency : 142 ns
Results Interpretation : Lower index values are better.

Benchmark Breakdown
Processor Affinity : CPU0-CPU1
Inter-Core Bandwidth @ 2x 8kB : 3102 MB/s
Inter-Core Bandwidth @ 4x 8kB : 3031 MB/s
Inter-Core Bandwidth @ 2x 32kB : 3173 MB/s
Inter-Core Bandwidth @ 4x 32kB : 2831 MB/s
Inter-Core Bandwidth @ 16x 8kB : 2754 MB/s
Inter-Core Bandwidth @ 2x 128kB : 2910 MB/s
Inter-Core Bandwidth @ 4x 128kB : 2435 MB/s
Inter-Core Bandwidth @ 16x 32kB : 2339 MB/s
Inter-Core Bandwidth @ 64x 8kB : 2238 MB/s
Inter-Core Bandwidth @ 16x 128kB : 1981 MB/s
Inter-Core Bandwidth @ 64x 32kB : 1915 MB/s
Inter-Core Bandwidth @ 64x 128kB : 1974 MB/s

I think I need some serious help...
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