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post #11 of 16
i just got a pair of these for $35~ US ... however not sure with the pricing on Amazon UK if they are as compelling but no doubt in my mind these are fantastic gaming / music and movie headphones... I had (and did not like) the AD700s previously (sold them) these blow the AD700's away in my view.. if they where closer to the $60~ amazon USA wants for them I would suggest you buy them with great haste....for sure for £70~ not as sure.... I love mine but i got them for so very little monies .
Pioneer SE-A1000

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pioneer-SE-A1000-Headphones-Stabilized-Free-Adjusting/dp/B001381SLI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1380749535&sr=8-1&keywords=se-a1000



what about the Senn 598's

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-High-End-Open-Circumaural-Headphones/dp/B0042A8CW2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1380749985&sr=8-1&keywords=senn+hd598

i guess they are slightly over budget less so than the 701s or 702s however.
post #12 of 16
Regarding the sound card, my personal opinion is that the Titanium HD is more or less the golden standard for uncompromising audio qualityaacross all common usages, being an incredible gaming card without sacrificing music playback quality, has incredible film soundtrack playback quality, and I even use it for record mastering as it exceeds the requirements for THD (noise floor), and I have done just about as much DVD-Audio quality work as CD quality work, each coming out perfectly when this card was the interface between thesour ce and the monitors/cans.

The STX is ever so slightly better than the TiHD for film which is likely due to the seemingly more "tightly" integrated Dolby tech, but at the same time as it helps the film playback it hurts gameplay use as Creative's CMSS3D is just leagues beyond Dolby Headphones in terms of "virtual surround for headphones". The difference is mostly due to the fact that DH simulates 5.1/7.1 speakers, taking the raw data and decoding it exactly as if it was being sent to 6/8 discrete channels before the DH tech intercepts the sound and spatial signals and attempt to replicate the 6/8 discrete locations through the headphones. CMSS3D, on the other hand, doesn't give you just 6/8 discrete channels or "points", but rather positions the audio without regard for virtual speakers. The result is that DH sounds like a DSP effect, while CMSS3D sounds like natural binaural sound.
Some people prefer DH, but most people I know find CMSS3D vastly superior, with the aforementioned natural vs syntheticsound aattribute, and a true sense of depth and height (distance), so rather than just "to the right rear" it's "110degrees horizontal plane, 45deg vertical plane, ascending at the rate of 5deg/sec, and approaching at 40m/sec" kind of sound.
   
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post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by nleksan View Post

Regarding the sound card, my personal opinion is that the Titanium HD is more or less the golden standard for uncompromising audio qualityaacross all common usages, being an incredible gaming card without sacrificing music playback quality, has incredible film soundtrack playback quality, and I even use it for record mastering as it exceeds the requirements for THD (noise floor), and I have done just about as much DVD-Audio quality work as CD quality work, each coming out perfectly when this card was the interface between thesour ce and the monitors/cans.

The STX is ever so slightly better than the TiHD for film which is likely due to the seemingly more "tightly" integrated Dolby tech, but at the same time as it helps the film playback it hurts gameplay use as Creative's CMSS3D is just leagues beyond Dolby Headphones in terms of "virtual surround for headphones". The difference is mostly due to the fact that DH simulates 5.1/7.1 speakers, taking the raw data and decoding it exactly as if it was being sent to 6/8 discrete channels before the DH tech intercepts the sound and spatial signals and attempt to replicate the 6/8 discrete locations through the headphones. CMSS3D, on the other hand, doesn't give you just 6/8 discrete channels or "points", but rather positions the audio without regard for virtual speakers. The result is that DH sounds like a DSP effect, while CMSS3D sounds like natural binaural sound.
Some people prefer DH, but most people I know find CMSS3D vastly superior, with the aforementioned natural vs syntheticsound aattribute, and a true sense of depth and height (distance), so rather than just "to the right rear" it's "110degrees horizontal plane, 45deg vertical plane, ascending at the rate of 5deg/sec, and approaching at 40m/sec" kind of sound.

Awesome post, thanks for the info! +Rep

For that bolded point alone though, I'm going to go with Creative... What about the Creative ZxR? How does that compare to the Titanium HD?
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post #14 of 16
Honestly, I can't hear much difference at all unless I'm using my GS1000/PS1000's or very high end (as in, thousands of dollars) speakers, so I usually recommend the TiHD because it's less expensive. However, it doesn't have analog surround, just analog stereo and digital surround.
   
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post #15 of 16
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Wow I can't believe those words can be used together. AD700's are pretty well known for having no bass, which is part of why they are so good for competitive gaming. However, I always strongly disagree with anyone who says they are good for anything else unless you listen to mostly classical music.
They also provide a better damping factor for low impedance headphones.

The AD700's do have bass....just not much of it. Bass-heads tend to over exaggerate the lack of bass. The bass the AD700's have is very good quality. As you will find (generally) with higher quality headphones is they will have less bass but the bass they have will be excellent. That's why a lot of cheap headphones have tons of poor quality bass.
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The AD700's do have bass....just not much of it. Bass-heads tend to over exaggerate the lack of bass. The bass the AD700's have is very good quality. As you will find (generally) with higher quality headphones is they will have less bass but the bass they have will be excellent. That's why a lot of cheap headphones have tons of poor quality bass.

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudioTechnicaATHAD700.pdf
Note the drop off below 100 Hz

For comparison here's the Q701, still a little less bass than neutral but not as bad.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGQuincyJonesQ701.pdf
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