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Yup, I agree with what you are laying down. There are so many aspects to "business" that an individual cannot...nay should not make such a bold statement as to generalize that touch screens are not good for "businesses". There are always exceptions. Bottom line is touch screen technology is creeping into offices, mills, foundries, fast food industry, trucks going down the road, heavy equipment, etc, etc more and more everyday.

but only when the use is tailored to being touch interface compatible or the nature of it was just accidentally like that. You are talking about highly specialized software that are tailored for very specific environments. I can't take the interface that controls depth of a saw cut on a logging machine and use that on a billing application. The same interface might not even work down the road at a different sawmill.
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Yup, I agree with what you are laying down. There are so many aspects to "business" that an individual cannot...nay should not make such a bold statement as to generalize that touch screens are not good for "businesses". There are always exceptions. Bottom line is touch screen technology is creeping into offices, mills, foundries, fast food industry, trucks going down the road, heavy equipment, etc, etc more and more everyday.

Case in point: at my parent's gas station, we have a deal with a local limousine company. Just a few months ago, they switched from paper records to having their drivers carry iPads with them.
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but only when the use is tailored to being touch interface compatible or the nature of it was just accidentally like that. You are talking about highly specialized software that are tailored for very specific environments. I can't take the interface that controls depth of a saw cut on a logging machine and use that on a billing application. The same interface might not even work down the road at a different sawmill.

That's why companies have proprietary software...
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but only when the use is tailored to being touch interface compatible or the nature of it was just accidentally like that. You are talking about highly specialized software that are tailored for very specific environments. I can't take the interface that controls depth of a saw cut on a logging machine and use that on a billing application. The same interface might not even work down the road at a different sawmill.

In regards to logging example, there isn't a reason you couldn't do both with a touchscreen, disregarding practically. As far as specialized software goes there are generic business applications from mobile payments, presentations, and interaction with clients, non-mobile office assets, and even office personal.

Specialized software built for a particular task will be needed no matter the access method. If they have to do it on a computer now they would just move that application to a touchscreen. I may be misunderstanding your comment but it sounds like you are trying to say that apps should work across many platforms and uses without reconfiguring. That isn't possible or practical though. There will have to be software development for a touchscreen application but that development would have to be done regardless of whether you are using a full desktop or tablet. The tablet allows for mobility and easier operating use.

Only point I am trying to make is that tablets are very useful for some business applications. There are many places where they are better than a desktop or laptop. There are also many places where it isn't. I just don't think people should try to say tablets don't have a place in business, and there is no point in denying that. We seem to be confusing the idea of what business is. It seems many think business involves cubicles loaded a monitor, computer, and a phone where a workers sits all day everyday. That isn't even close to defining how tech is used in business applications.
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I just never have been able to wrap my mind around what was so sacred about the stupid start menu? Win+X is all I need to open a menu that offers even more than the start menu ever did. What's the big deal???
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Because. Amiright?
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Steve "Everything you do sucks, whereas everything I do is awesome, even if its the same thing as what you're already doing" Jobs.


Again, options. If the remote is stuck under your sleeping spouses backside and you don't want to wake them and potentially relinquish control of the television, gestures obviously ftw. If you can't find the remote, etc etc etc

Just get another, lighter wife with a richer set of skills!
Some would say "Meh, I'm good with what I've got" both in the wife and Win7 case.
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If the worth of something was only ever counted by one persons single use case or preference, there would only be one product on the market.

The irony is strong in this one considering Microsoft's philosophy with Windows 8.


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I'm going to just say it. If you can't use the Windows 8 UI more efficiently than windows 7, you haven't tried it, and don't deserve to argue. Everything can be accessed fast through the Start Screen. Or, the same old way on the desktop. And if you have tried and still can't figure it out, you can't be very smart.

Get over yourself and stop offending people.

Despite you thinking there are only two alternatives, there is a third: people that have used it, learned how to use it and criticized it for what it is. There are countless posts on this forum of many different people talking about what they don't like about Windows 8 in detail.

Your generalization is the pinnacle of arrogance, proven by the simple fact that a year later Microsoft is fixing some of the glaring problems Windows 8 was showing since September of 2011, when the Developer Preview was released. Me and other people were already talking about these problems two years ago, after having used it (see link in my sig for one of the first threads about Windows 8 on this forum).
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The irony is strong in this one considering Microsoft's philosophy with Windows 8.

Can't wrap my mind around this one. Win8 is far more funtrional for far more scenarios than Win7 is. Ever try to use Win7 on a touch screen? Or on a tablet? rolleyes.gif
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Get over yourself and stop offending people.

Despite you thinking there are only two alternatives, there is a third: people that have used it, learned how to use it and criticized it for what it is. There are countless posts on this forum of many different people talking about what they don't like about Windows 8 in detail.

Your generalization is the pinnacle of arrogance, proven by the simple fact that a year later Microsoft is fixing some of the glaring problems Windows 8 was showing since September of 2011, when the Developer Preview was released. Me and other people were already talking about these problems two years ago, after having used it (see link in my sig for one of the first threads about Windows 8 on this forum).
Get over myself?
Knowing the vast majority of OCN seems to be plagued with people who think they know what they are talking about, but don't, I disagree. The OS is fine, all they did was change to the start screen. It amazes me how much you guys complain over a change like that. No other real changes have been made. We are crying for no reason. Not wasting my time on you anymore, bub. If you don't like Windows 8, fine. But don't go saying the OS is broken. I don't like Linux, but that doesn't mean it sucks. I just don't like it.

The PROBLEM is people who don't LIKE the new UI automatically jump on the WINDOWS 8 SUXZ0RZ Wagon. It's so stupid. The OS works, I've proven it by youtube videos, and I'll continue to do so. Everything works. Plain and simple, people don't want to learn a new UI, so they will complain about the product, even though it is very STUPID easy to learn.


AND... IIRC, MS is simply making the start screen prettier and adding a start screen button for people without the window key on their keyboard? What the heck do we need a button for? It's amazing how people call that a start, lol. Just deal with it brah, it's not rocket science.
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I really like the new style of Win8 personally. There are issues with it but its certainly the only OS out there that is even attempting to work on such divergent platforms. I just wish the metro aspect was more seamlessly integrated with the desktop than it is. Almost feels like two separate OS's pasted together sometimes but 8.1 should help there. My main problem with the haters is how they refuse to even give it a chance and just jump on the "make Windows the same for all time" bandwagon. I'm personally sick to death of the same old desktop with the same old taskbar and the same old start menu. At least MS is trying to give us something fresh and I applaud them for that even if the execution still needs work....
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