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Except Alphacool "junk" is really good, they have some of the highest performing rads on the market with every size u could want
They stopped stocking EK products during the whole nickel controversy and only syaryed stlcking them again because they where be constantly asked.

Also PCCG just bought another warehouse so perhaps they'll be stocking more, both variety and stock amount

Junk might be too strong a word but it is low end priced and quality gear. Everybody knows their rads work great but they are also notoriously dodgily built. I own or have owned several.
The rest of their stuff is clearly built to price rather than quality. That is fine if you just want the job done and most of it will work just fine, but I prefer to pay a bit more for things that look good too. It is good that there is other options than over priced bitspower but a middle ground would be nice. At the moment it just seems mainly to be lots of expensive Bitspower and lots of cheap Alphacool.

It seemed to me to be a fair while after the Nickel problems that they stopped stocking EK. I think maybe driven by local internet and forum mania where for a while everybody was proving they were in the know in the water cooling scene by dissing EK. No actual experience required. Until they realised that no other company was going to step up and do better. I lost count of the number of times a passionate EK hater would eventually get whatever EK block they needed that no other company bothered to make and would be still muttering how bad EK was in their build logs to save face or something. Just so irrational.
Edited by Jakusonfire - 4/1/14 at 4:13am
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Junk might be too strong a word but it is low end priced and quality gear. Everybody knows their rads work great but they are also notoriously dodgily built. I own or have owned several.
The rest of their stuff is clearly built to price rather than quality. That is fine if you just want the job done and most of it will work just fine, but I prefer to pay a bit more for things that look good too. It is good that there is other options than over priced bitspower but a middle ground would be nice. At the moment it just seems mainly to be lots of expensive Bitspower and lots of cheap Alphacool.

It seemed to me to be a fair while after the Nickel problems that they stopped stocking EK. I think maybe driven by local internet and forum mania where for a while everybody was proving they were in the know in the water cooling scene by dissing EK. No actual experience required. Until they realised that no other company was going to step up and do better. I lost count of the number of times a passionate EK hater would eventually get whatever EK block they needed that no other company bothered to make and would be still muttering how bad EK was in their build logs to save face or something. Just so irrational.

Alphacool is dodgily built?i didnt know tht..I thought that their stuff was good...makes me rethink the alphacool st30 i was planning on purchasing
Edited by cephelix - 4/1/14 at 4:20am
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Alphacool is dodgily built?i didnt know tht..I thought that their stuff was good...makes me rethink the alphacool st30 i was planning on purchasing

If you google or search this forum for Alphacool radiator rattling there is plenty about it. I know at least at one stage one of the US retailers was only willing to take back Alphacool rads if it was swapped for a different brand because too often they would have the replacement rad sent back too.
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thanks for that..will check before i make my purchases then....
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post #3645 of 9560
I can't support the poster above. My first EK block, for a R9 290 came with some plastic or rubber residue inside the block which I only noticed after mounting it. So much for great quality. Alphacool radiators don't have the greatest finish but from the reviews around the internet they perform very well and have some good variety in radiators. So far my alphacool rads didn't give any trouble.
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Was looking at the st30 360 kos it was kind of cheap...about 78USD...if the rattling doesnt affect performance i may go for it,though since i'll be getting it from a physical store, i could always check for defects on the spot
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The st30 is just 30mm thick, logically it should be cheaper than other radiators since less materials are used.
From what I read another alternative to alphacool st30 is GT Stealth which has a higher FPI but the fins are thinner. Other slim radiators from different manufactures don't seem to have good performance due to high FPI or some other design choice.
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there isn't a wide range or WC stuff here..mainly alphacool and EK ones
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It's Sooo unusual for those of us lucky enough to live under the southern cross to be disadvantaged in both variety and stock of available tech stuff or even be overcharged for it.

Sure beef, beer, bongs and babes abound, but try to find a local supplier of really cool fan controllers or a res and you have to go o/s .. Even when the exchange rate is good the postage is a killer. And if you don't live in Sydney , Melbourne, Brisvegas, Laidback or New Jo'burg then even standard parts can be difficult. I blew a power supply running tri sli gtx 570's folding 24/7 (surprising) and will have to order one in as the 2 local shops don't stock anything decent over 750watts.

I like pccg , and have ordered lots through them but with the demise of gammods and now apparently the koolroom , it's gonna leave a big hole especially for watercooling gear. Now they will become the sole source, and monopolies are no good in the long run.

what we need is a distributor/reseller of sorts, who can take multiple small orders and bring them in from the u.s and Europe at reduced shipping costs and without the hassle of needing US addresses and credit cards..

Off topic I know, but I feel your pain brudders.
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post #3650 of 9560
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there isn't a wide range or WC stuff here..mainly alphacool and EK ones

Oh yea, should be lucky you in Singapore. Shipping to Singapore is cheap and taxes are next to nothing. I think you only get taxed over a value of 1000usd?
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