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post #8611 of 9619
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Originally Posted by Wolftame View Post

Sounds good, while this is unlucky I really can't complain about how it's been handled. I find it hard to see how it could be a defect though as the fascia is molded and there seems to be nothing wrong or damaged about it. As for it having been shipped I haven't gotten any notice of that, the ticket is marked as shipped, but that is for the original, non-matching, fascia.

Yeah, I saw the tracking # is still from the original replacement. But I just got a message from our customer service, and looks like the new replacement is shipping out first thing tomorrow morning. I've advised them to update your tracking info once the item is shipped.
post #8612 of 9619
So, while waiting for the front to be sorted, let's discuss something more fun.
I'm a bit ambivalent on one of my build choices.
I only have 2 HDs and 2 SSDs so I only use one HD cage, I used to have it hanging off the 5.25 rack, but while fiddling with the fascia moved it down to sit on the bottom rightmost location. My thinking was that doing so would allow for a more open and direct airflow towards the gfx card, it would also partly hide the HD cage giving me a more clean and open look inside the case. My thought was to put the bottom front fan in a lower position to still cool the HDs.
Quickly I realized that I can't move the fan down so now the HDs will have less cooling, the position of the cage will also make it somewhat trickier to connect the water cooling pump (I will have to use a 90degree fitting).
So, as said, I'm now a bit ambivalent on how to do this, keep the cage in the bottom position, or move it back up and use the lower space for an additional 120mm fan?
The HD cage in the upper position will receive direct cooling, but will also block the direct stream towards the gfx card, but on the other hand maybe an extra 120 fan in the bottom might compensate a bit for that? (If it weren't for the fact that I need some storage HDs I could run without any cages).

Anyone else had the same dilemma or have any thoughts on the matter?
post #8613 of 9619
Oups, sad now.
I was so happy about the news that you could fit a slim 420 radiator that all my water cooling plans were based around that. I only considered length and height though which is where it seems my plans come crashing down.
All Hardware Labs radiators seems to be of the same width, 153mm, while the Alphacool shown as an 420 example at the start of this thread is 144mm and the EK CE is 145mm wide (but also 45mm thick and I want to stay with 30mm for the possibility to go Push/Pull). By my best measuring it seems that the width of the 5.25 rack I need to squeeze the radiator into is 150mm so no go for HWL without removing that cage (which I can't/won't, don't have the tools to do).
Not sure what to do now, HWL Nemesis GTS 280, EK CE 420, Nemesis GTS 360??
post #8614 of 9619
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Originally Posted by Wolftame View Post

Oups, sad now.
I was so happy about the news that you could fit a slim 420 radiator that all my water cooling plans were based around that. I only considered length and height though which is where it seems my plans come crashing down.
All Hardware Labs radiators seems to be of the same width, 153mm, while the Alphacool shown as an 420 example at the start of this thread is 144mm and the EK CE is 145mm wide (but also 45mm thick and I want to stay with 30mm for the possibility to go Push/Pull). By my best measuring it seems that the width of the 5.25 rack I need to squeeze the radiator into is 150mm so no go for HWL without removing that cage (which I can't/won't, don't have the tools to do).
Not sure what to do now, HWL Nemesis GTS 280, EK CE 420, Nemesis GTS 360??

If you don't want to run the EK 420 radiator the only other 420 that will fit is the XSPC EX420

http://www.performance-pcs.com/new-xspc-ex420-triple-fan-low-profile-high-performance-radiator-black.html
post #8615 of 9619
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Originally Posted by Barefooter View Post

If you don't want to run the EK 420 radiator the only other 420 that will fit is the XSPC EX420

http://www.performance-pcs.com/new-xspc-ex420-triple-fan-low-profile-high-performance-radiator-black.html

Just found out that the Nemesis LS 420 will fit just fine (it's 140mm wide, slightly less performance than the GTS 420, but much better fit).

http://www.performance-pcs.com/black-ice-nemesis-l-series-420-stealth-radiator.html

With shipping and a minor discount it would come to about the same price for me as the GTS bought in Europe.

So choices now is EK CE 420, Nemesis GTS 280 or Nemesis LS 420.
With just the one block in the loop right now I might get away with the 280, but a 420 would definitely be more future proof.
post #8616 of 9619
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Originally Posted by Wolftame View Post

Just found out that the Nemesis LS 420 will fit just fine (it's 140mm wide, slightly less performance than the GTS 420, but much better fit).

http://www.performance-pcs.com/black-ice-nemesis-l-series-420-stealth-radiator.html

With shipping and a minor discount it would come to about the same price for me as the GTS bought in Europe.

So choices now is EK CE 420, Nemesis GTS 280 or Nemesis LS 420.
With just the one block in the loop right now I might get away with the 280, but a 420 would definitely be more future proof.
Yeah looks like that one will fit. When I did my research awhile back none of the black ices would fit.

I had cut a small piece of the top drive bay mount out to fit it in.
post #8617 of 9619
Black Ice GTS 420 will fit no problem. You may counter clearance issue when you mount the port on the rear with 20mm spacing radiator (like XSPC). I was use the XSPC with EK radiator, now I change everthing to black ice GTS/GTX 420. That give me a lot of room for other things.
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post #8618 of 9619
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Black Ice GTS 420 will fit no problem. You may counter clearance issue when you mount the port on the rear with 20mm spacing radiator (like XSPC). I was use the XSPC with EK radiator, now I change everthing to black ice GTS/GTX 420. That give me a lot of room for other things.
That's odd because the stats I found for it says it's also a 153mm wide radiator (it's one of their older designs). If that one actually fits then so should the Nemesis GTS. Not sure how it could though as the gap is definitely 150mm at best, must be quite a squeeze?
post #8619 of 9619
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That's odd because the stats I found for it says it's also a 153mm wide radiator (it's one of their older designs). If that one actually fits then so should the Nemesis GTS. Not sure how it could though as the gap is definitely 150mm at best, must be quite a squeeze?
I am not talking about how wide is the radiator. I am talking about the screw hole spacing (15mm vs 20mm) and total length of the radiator. You can see the red line in the picture. The XSPC radiator (20mm fan hole spacing) is longer than GTS 420(15mm). So I have to dodge the rear fan mount with a dual rotary fitting. With Black Ice, I can use my 16 OD acrylic tube with just one fitting and it can come straight down.

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post #8620 of 9619
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I am not talking about how wide is the radiator. I am talking about the screw hole spacing (15mm vs 20mm) and total length of the radiator. You can see the red line in the picture. The XSPC radiator (20mm fan
Ah, OK, now I'm with you. You have completely removed the 5.25" cage though so the width isn't an issue for you. Looking at my current 30mm rad though I see there's very little metal that would need to be cut for the Nemesis GTS 420 to fit and that cut would not be visible from the outside or cost me the lowest 5.25" bay (if I want to add something like the Aquaero later). I do need to retain the cage though if I'm going to hang the 3.5" HD cage off it.
I guess the GTS 420 is back on the table if I can find someone to do the cut for me (don't have the tools). I need to decide real soon though as I like to put my orders in and have it all done by December.
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