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That's the idea! The only thing that really troubles me now is how and where to mount the pump (DDC-1T). I'm thinking at the bottom fan grill that's closest to the front, but still not sure how I'm going to actually mount it.
Anyway, there's still a question of which rad to get as a second. Clearly, 2x120 or 2x140 is a safe option at any thickness, but I would prefer 3x120-140 even if it has to be slim. Clearly, that requires removing the 5.25 bay entirely. First off, do you know if it's even doable?

The reason I'm asking is I don't have my case yet, and I would like to get the rads as soon as possible - but first I need to decide on the size and I have to be sure it'll fit.

And another question: will a 480 rad fit either in front or at the top?
Is it possible to add the EK ddc anti vibration kit to your pump? I ask because if it's possible, then EK also sells a 120mm mounting bracket so you could mount your pump directly to to front rad/fan.
As for removing the ODD bay, it is possible by removing a few rivets. There are a few posts in this thread that highlight how to do it. I just cannot be bothered to do it.
I cannot comment on fitting a 480mm rad in either position though. I think in the OP, there is mention of fitting a 420mm up front but the picturee are already missing
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Ah, yes, I've seen the 120 mm mounting bracket from EK! It's too expensive, IMO, but I could devise something similar with the stuff from the local hardware store, I suppose. And yes, there's also a question of vibration dampening. I suppose I'll have to test-fit the pump once I get the case and see where I can shoehorn it.
I've seen a DDC pump with a custom top (with inlet on the top) literally hanging free under a reservoir, is that a valid option?
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Ah, yes, I've seen the 120 mm mounting bracket from EK! It's too expensive, IMO, but I could devise something similar with the stuff from the local hardware store, I suppose. And yes, there's also a question of vibration dampening. I suppose I'll have to test-fit the pump once I get the case and see where I can shoehorn it.
I've seen a DDC pump with a custom top (with inlet on the top) literally hanging free under a reservoir, is that a valid option?
Well, if you have sources to fabricate such a bracket then by all means go that route. Definitely cheaper than what EK sells it for. Are you using soft or hard tubing? I don't see why you couldn't suspend your pump if you were using soft tubing. Hard tubing might develop micro cracka after some time but i may just be overthinking things. If anything, the bracket would just provide me a peace of mind versus having the pump suspended. I've also seen people mount the ddc on top of the hard drive cage. And make a shoggy sandwich to dampen vibrations.
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I use soft tubing, but the one I've seen suspended was using some kind of a rigid double-ended fitting, not a piece of tubing. Although tubing would dampen vibrations quite nicely itself!
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I use soft tubing, but the one I've seen suspended was using some kind of a rigid double-ended fitting, not a piece of tubing. Although tubing would dampen vibrations quite nicely itself!
Ooo, now you've peaked my interest. Could you possibly provide a link to that? For hard tubing I just worry about the long term viability of such a setup
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Is it possible to add the EK ddc anti vibration kit to your pump? I ask because if it's possible, then EK also sells a 120mm mounting bracket so you could mount your pump directly to to front rad/fan.
As for removing the ODD bay, it is possible by removing a few rivets. There are a few posts in this thread that highlight how to do it. I just cannot be bothered to do it.
I cannot comment on fitting a 480mm rad in either position though. I think in the OP, there is mention of fitting a 420mm up front but the picturee are already missing

The EK "anti vibration kit" does pretty much nothing at all to vibrations, it's just 4 fairly stiff rubber standoffs that screws into the pump and another set of screws screw in to them through your mounting point. When mounting the DDC keep in mind it need decent cooling as it does run quite hot (hence why they now come with the heat sink as standard).
480 rad, no go (just physically won't fit). 420 will fit in the top, with or without removing/modding OD bay depending on thickness and width. 420 in front?, not sure, but if possible not ideal and definitely require removing OD bay.
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I use soft tubing, but the one I've seen suspended was using some kind of a rigid double-ended fitting, not a piece of tubing. Although tubing would dampen vibrations quite nicely itself!

A male-male extender should do the trick, preferably a rotary one, that would spread the vibrations through the res and it's mount though.
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The EK "anti vibration kit" does pretty much nothing at all to vibrations, it's just 4 fairly stiff rubber standoffs that screws into the pump and another set of screws screw in to them through your mounting point. When mounting the DDC keep in mind it need decent cooling as it does run quite hot (hence why they now come with the heat sink as standard).
480 rad, no go (just physically won't fit). 420 will fit in the top, with or without removing/modding OD bay depending on thickness and width. 420 in front?, not sure, but if possible not ideal and definitely require removing OD bay.
Good point. I didn't know it was that bad vibration-wise. As for heatsinking it, I read that as long as it's placed in the path of a fan it should perform fine. Especially since it's not running full tilt 24/7. Or am I wrong about this?
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I will gauge the pump temps when it comes to disassembling the current rig. I might be wrong, but my impression from when I built the loop was that it gets warm but not hot. There's no fan blowing onto it, it's screwed to the case floor through a sheet of soft material so no airflow underneath it either. Been working in my ring for about 5 years by now, usually 6 hours a day Mo through Fri and 14-16 hours during weekend. The previous owner had it for about 1 year before me.
It's the basic 1T, not 1T-plus. The latter does get hot, if I remember anything from reading the forums 5 years ago.
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480 rad, no go (just physically won't fit). 420 will fit in the top, with or without removing/modding OD bay depending on thickness and width. 420 in front?, not sure, but if possible not ideal and definitely require removing OD bay.
Thanks for the clarifications. I'll stick to my 360 mm rad then and the only question remaining is whether to get 360 or 240/280 for a second one.
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I will gauge the pump temps when it comes to disassembling the current rig. I might be wrong, but my impression from when I built the loop was that it gets warm but not hot. There's no fan blowing onto it, it's screwed to the case floor through a sheet of soft material so no airflow underneath it either. Been working in my ring for about 5 years by now, usually 6 hours a day Mo through Fri and 14-16 hours during weekend. The previous owner had it for about 1 year before me.
It's the basic 1T, not 1T-plus. The latter does get hot, if I remember anything from reading the forums 5 years ago.
Thanks for the clarifications. I'll stick to my 360 mm rad then and the only question remaining is whether to get 360 or 240/280 for a second one.

My EK DDC 3.2 PWM was unpleasantly hot to the touch running at 100% (my first pump from them had a broken PWM circuit so ran constantly at 100%), I put a thermal sensor on the heatsink and it registered 44c even with a fan blowing up at the heatsink from below. Since then I've replaced the bracket with one that doesn't hinder the fan airflow as much, made a vibration dampener that also acta bit like a shroud plus gotten a working pump that I run at 40%, now it only register 25c (Not sure how reliable that is though as it's pretty much ambient temp).
Secondary I'm assuming being the front one? or bottom? Bottom would be limited to 240 and depending on PSU might get seriously tight. For front I think 280 would be a good idea (bigger is better right, and you have space for 2 140mm fans without modding. For top 420 works just fine if it's not too wide (like the HWL ones are, but anything up to say 148mm wide should be fine. If you have something wider you need to either remove the OD bay or mod it (like I did) a 360 should fit just fine (but still might require a minor mod of it's thick).
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