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Actually this generation should be very different.There is a pretty nice outlook for PC gamers this time around.thumb.gif

This.

Console gaming is only ever useful for exclusives that don't get a release for PC. Playing the same game on a console that is also available on PC is pointless to me, the only difference is keyboard/mouse or gamepad, the PC is a far more enhanced experience than what consoles offer you.

Look at something like Skyrim: you get mods, visual adjusters, greater detail, way less pop in, and it's way more immersive than playing it on a couch or beanbag.

I mean sure you will get bsod's, overheating issues, texture streaming problems and even issues with just getting the game to start for the first time, but the positives to PC gaming easily outweigh the negatives.


What would I prefer ? PC Gaming any day.
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The "Should We..." questions are bad form. Make decisions for yourself and don't involve some kind of idiotic group think.

Seeing as you are completely oblivious to the purpose of a FORUM, and have a terrible attitude that makes me look like a Saint (hard to do), you can excuse yourself from the website in its entirety.

@OP;

There really isn't much reason to not go AMD at this point for GPU and CPU. Often times the question shouldn't be "Which is faster, or better?" ,but "Can I tell the difference when playing between them?". In most situations the answer is "No, you won't be able to tell the difference".

Sure, in synthetic benchmarks you can "see" a difference, but what most people often forget to do is really look at those differences in context of the game. "Red card is 10% faster/slower than Green card!", what does that really mean? Well in a lot of situations we are talking a FEW frames per second, sub 10 fps. One card pulling a solid 80 and the other a 72. That isn't going to be a perceivable difference in the game.

Another thing to consider is cost; regardless of our income levels, cost factors in at some point for everyone. Last week I looked at a build for someone, and for the cost of an i7 4770K, they could purchase AMD 8350, motherboard, and RAM, all of significant quality. Is the i7 faster? Sure, it is faster in a lot of titles, but we are talking a few frames per second when the two cards use the same GPU. Yet there is a significant cost difference between the.

If at this moment I were to build a gaming computer, and I just want to game and screw around with, it would look something like this....

AMD 8350
AMD 7970
MSi or Gigabyte motherboard

Right now you can buy the 8350 for about $175, literally; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284. You can also buy a 7970 for under $200 after discounts/rebates, and the motherboard you are about $100 for.

For less than the cost of a 4770K and a decent motherboard, you can buy an 8350, 7970, and a decent motherboard. Performance difference? In synthetics a few percent, in actual game play, you won't see a difference.

None of this includes the fact that the 7000 series is GCN and will support AMD Mantle and the games that run it, or other AMD related optimization that we WILL see coming out of the next generation of consoles.

Intel holds the performance crown, and some of us pay a premium to wear it. In truth it really doesn't matter and AMD is really the best option.
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I would say amd all the way. Always actually had better experience when I had amd cards
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The "Should We..." questions are bad form. Make decisions for yourself and don't involve some kind of idiotic group think.

Stop trying to force us to conform to your way of thinking.
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I think no matter what Nvidia and Intel CPUs will always be beast. But I think since consoles are moving to AMD gpu/cpus there is a chance that AMD may be preferred for gaming PCs just because of the potential better optimization for them. Only time will tell!
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The next few months wont bring much change. But if you are looking deep into the crystal ball, the long term outlook is definitely pro AMD. From the data out there, the 290x will go toe to toe with Nvidia's best w/o Mantle, so that is a wash. However, as more and more games finish their development and start to get ported to PC, you will see the rise and adoption rate of Mantle. The take home point with Mantle is that it is the console api for xbox 1 and ps4. It would have to be developed by AMD anyways, since that's a prerequisite for any console producer. And thus, therein lies the synergy of being AMD and winning the console contracts. You can dictate the face of gaming from that point forward. Thus the future of games will have Mantle baked in and that will reward AMD gpus. That crystal ball is looking more and more clear as times passes.
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Nvidia is the better one in PC.
Nvidia fanboy here ^

Nvidia is currently a little behind AMD, even right now. You can get a 7970 and a GTX 770 and they will perform nearly the same, the 770 will surpass it in some games but for nearly $250 more for the 770 over the 7970, yeah not worth the extra 10 FPS.

Ive personally owned both a GTX 670 (2 and 4GB editions) and a 7950. The 7950 was actually a little faster in just about every game, even at stock clocks. At least the games I play, being Mechwarrior online, Battlefield 3, Minecraft, Guild Wars 2, WoW, etc.

For CPU's, Intel has a huge lead on AMD as AMD hasnt produced a new performace desktop processor in far too long. Sure its good performance for your money with the 8320, but I would still buy an Intel CPU over an AMD for some reason. I think I might be stupid (haha). The i7's are quite expensive, and are the cheapest intel that competes with the 8320/50 from AMD. But its still almost a $200 difference between the two.
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Nvidia fanboy here ^

Nvidia is currently a little behind AMD, even right now. You can get a 7970 and a GTX 770 and they will perform nearly the same, the 770 will surpass it in some games but for nearly $250 more for the 770 over the 7970, yeah not worth the extra 10 FPS.

Ive personally owned both a GTX 670 (2 and 4GB editions) and a 7950. The 7950 was actually a little faster in just about every game, even at stock clocks. At least the games I play, being Mechwarrior online, Battlefield 3, Minecraft, Guild Wars 2, WoW, etc.

For CPU's, Intel has a huge lead on AMD as AMD hasnt produced a new performace desktop processor in far too long. Sure its good performance for your money with the 8320, but I would still buy an Intel CPU over an AMD for some reason. I think I might be stupid (haha). The i7's are quite expensive, and are the cheapest intel that competes with the 8320/50 from AMD. But its still almost a $200 difference between the two.
Looking at some benchmarks between the GTX 780 and the hd 7970 GHz edition (top of the line single GPU's from each company) it truly doesn't seem like there is much of a difference in performance over all in some cases the AMD has way better FPS. My question is how good is it with AA and tessellation? My hd 6970 is pretty much garbage at the AA in BF3 compared to the nVidia 5xx series. Is this a running trend?
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Looking at some benchmarks between the GTX 780 and the hd 7970 GHz edition (top of the line single GPU's from each company) it truly doesn't seem like there is much of a difference in performance over all in some cases the AMD has way better FPS. My question is how good is it with AA and tessellation? My hd 6970 is pretty much garbage at the AA in BF3 compared to the nVidia 5xx series. Is this a running trend?
Not totally sure anymore about the tessellation and AA, its been a while since I owned the HD 7950. My GTX 670 is pretty good with it, 4GB of onboard does help with that though.
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Why focus just on AMD GPU?
Wont next gen games be multithreaded on CPU? if so would it be right to assume it wont be necessary to have strongest single core performance (Intel) and an AMD CPU would do just as good?
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