Originally Posted by tpi2007
Yes, the majority of complaints come from desktop users because that is by and large the vast majority of Windows users Microsoft decided to upset in order to leverage the Windows brand into a different market.
The strategy obviously flopped too as they failed to leverage that connection (it wasn't even that much of a connection as Windows RT is not compatible with x86 applications and they failed miserably to convey that by calling it "Windows" in the first place) and people simply didn't buy their mobile devices, hence you can't have many complaints from that customer base if it's practically non existent - the $900 million Surface RT write-off and Ballmer's subsequent departure announcement show how the strategy, or at the very least the execution was wrong from the start.
Oh, and I didn't mention it before, but the UI is not only a mess, in my opinion (and I'm sure many others) it is ugly and therefore the first contact is everything but appealing. I'll even concede that the two new tile sizes and the ability to have the same background picture on both desktop and Start screen in Windows 8.1 does make it look better, but the basic colours of tiles and window borders and the general flatness of the UI, especially on the desktop and those almost unusable flat with just slightly different shades of grey window scroll bars still make for an ugly and non customizable user experience.
And yes, I am pretty opposed to the company as a whole right now. As I wrote above in this post, I'm a long time Microsoft customer that appreciated the advances they made to introduce computers to the masses while catering to everybody and keeping an open to develop for and to use model, and they are not only betraying their past by declaring in advance the death of the free to develop for model that made them what they are and that got them the customer base they now have, but they are also making terrible business decisions and justifying them with utmost disrespect for Windows users.
And no, contrary to the 'you're afraid of change' label you're trying to put on me despite all I've said previously, I'll have to tell you how wrong your cliché is.
I would actually support Windows 8 as a product (let's forget for a moment what I said about the direction Microsoft wants to take) if it wasn't clearly a half baked product, a mix between a slightly tweaked under the hood Windows 7 and the Windows Phone interface badly glued together. They don't even have the same store. Expected by spring next year only. No, Windows 8 didn't do an amazing job, and the numbers speak for themselves, not to mention 1. they are patching things with 8.1 (and more are still needed) which further proves the point, 2. products such as Modern Mix show how the experience should really be for a desktop user.
I would support a Windows 8 where I could ditch the touch elements 100% because they don't fit on a desktop at all, while keeping the advantages of the modern apps. That would mean having them run on the desktop, with full desktop window controls - minimize, restore, close buttons, fully resizeable windows, and a unified taskbar where you can access all your desktop and modern apps. This would actually be "Your PC, simplified." But then again, that phrase is from Windows 7's marketing, not 8. And in case you don't know, the default size of Windows 7's taskbar - yes you can change it to a smaller version - is bigger because it's optimized for touch, so making a unified approach is perfectly possible.
What you seem to ignore is that Microsoft is trying to push the desktop / open platform model out of the window (pun intended). You don't call desktop applications "legacy" and try to make the standard version of Visual Studio only be able to compile Modern apps or shove the store into people's faces out of nowhere. This is a mix between desperation to push a platform out of the gate as soon as possible (no matter how unfinished it is) and disrespect for the developers and consumers on an open platform. None of this is good.
I understand companies such as Apple that deliver what I would call a domestic appliance approach to computers. It's always been their approach and I can respect that. Some people are technologically averse or just don't want to invest time into it and will only handle these devices as long as they have to for work and, provided it's simple and appealing enough, for entertainment. But that approach means a closed system, and that isn't what makes an enthusiast like me an enthusiast, and it surely isn't what made the PC market boom as Apple's desktop share was always diminute (and now the same thing is happening with Apple's smartphones vs. Android smartphones), it was Microsoft's approach. This same Microsoft that went full closed garden with Windows Phone and Surface RT, as opposed to Android, and is trying to overcome Apple instead of Google as the niche tablet and smartphone provider by (desperately and utterly misguidedly) trying to lure Apple iPad and iPhone owners with money vouchers for Microsoft equipment in exchange for their Apple equipment.
If you still don't see the direction Microsoft is trying to take for the future, I don't know what else I can do. This is not the approach that made them what they are and it surely isn't the approach that made enthusiasts like us what we are.
They really should be a lot more supportive of the current user base when a lot of open source initiative over the years has brought forth the pieces of the puzzle in a good enough state, so that a big enough company like Valve can now come in and put those pieces together and do what Microsoft didn't do. Mind you, Google already did it with Android.
Then again, maybe this is all inevitable, you can't compete with free unless you have ad revenue like Google or game sales percentages like Valve to support it, so maybe Microsoft saw the writing on the wall and thought that their only way into the future is to go the way of Apple, cater to a niche audience with lots of income that doesn't mind a closed system.
Maybe that is it, and I can understand that they are ultimately trying to do what they think is best to save them, but that is not the approach me and practically all enthusiasts support, so in a way this is a parting of ways, and unfortunately, not in the best terms, as the way they are doing it doesn't even provide for a pleasant departure, save for the good memories of Windows 7. The world has indeed changed. We should all thank Microsoft for having made the PC popular, but now many of the things we use have superseded Microsoft - stuff we do on the Internet and stuff that has gotten to a good enough point or that just needs a few improvements (open source and cross platform software like Firefox, Libre Office, VLC, OpenGL, etc) that the majority of consumers don't need to pay Microsoft the respective 'tax'.