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All forms of life as we know it depend on water, so for us to survive on mars, water is essential.
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Mars does not have enough H2O to support life. The amount of energy needed to produce 1 gallon of usable water would make the process inefficient.
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Mars does not have enough H2O to support life. The amount of energy needed to produce 1 gallon of usable water would make the process inefficient.

Inefficient as opposed to what? Going back to Earth and bringing back some lakes? I don't think the energy consumed is an issue, given the fact that water is not an "energy" source in the way burning fuel is. It's a natural resource needed to survive. So, I think it's worth consuming much energy to extract water, even if it takes a lot of it.
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Inefficient as opposed to what? Going back to Earth and bringing back some lakes? I don't think the energy consumed is an issue, given the fact that water is not an "energy" source in the way burning fuel is. It's a natural resource needed to survive. So, I think it's worth consuming much energy to extract water, even if it takes a lot of it.

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Mars does not have enough H2O to support life. The amount of energy needed to produce 1 gallon of usable water would make the process inefficient.

You realize you are contradicting pretty much everything that was said in the article? 2% of the entire Martian surface = Lots ( not infinite but this is just the surface discovery) and there isn't really such thing as inefficient process to extracting a necessity of life such as water unless it takes longer than you can survive without it. Condensing water from soil doesn't take long. Obviously this doesn't mean we can move in tomorrow but it's one less thing to pack when getting ready.
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Inefficient as opposed to what? Going back to Earth and bringing back some lakes? I don't think the energy consumed is an issue, given the fact that water is not an "energy" source in the way burning fuel is. It's a natural resource needed to survive. So, I think it's worth consuming much energy to extract water, even if it takes a lot of it.


"I don't think the energy consumed is an issue"

Really?
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"I don't think the energy consumed is an issue"

Really?

Really. We are talking about extracting water. Nothing works without it. When we go there, having water is top priority. So we'd use every energy reserve possible.

What is the alternative? Saying "We shouldn't go to Mars altogether, too much energy used to extract water."

All of this is hypothetical, and nobody would bother to go there if first he didn't have a plan on how to manage energy. Mind you, I'm not saying "not an issue" meaning that energy is sparse, I'm saying that it something that HAS to be done, and I fail to see any more "efficient" as you put it, alternatives.
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Soooooooo
IMO there must be at least a single cell organism frozen on that planet, what are we waiting for ?
Send a few robots a la Wall-E and scavenge that red land.
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Not 100% related to the topic but I fail to understand the reason why there must be water in a planet for that planet to have living organisms or aliens if you will... Many scientists just write off life on a planet if there isn't water.

Can't other organisms have different means of survivaiL?

back on topic, I wish instead of fighting each other, we would attempt on exploring the universe further. Hopefully this news can do that.

Water is the only prerequisite for every living thing on this planet. The cells need to move about in something, and here it's water (-based liquids). It stands to reason that that's going to a good sign of the potential for life.
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