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Right, but this is based on our currently known elements. There could be millions more that have never reached our planet.

There aren't millions of more elements..... There are probably less than 200 elements in the universe. Virtually all the higher ones are very unstable.


There are pretty logical reasons that a liquid medium is required for life as we know it. It may not be required for all life but then you would have define everything that we don't know and how to test for things that we have never observed.
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One thing I like to keep in mind when I see these kind of news.

There is life in the universe.

Now, whether you are selffish and believe we are alone or you are open the the idea that we might be either the top evolution or some sort of primitive race.

That is bad science.

The burden of proof is always to prove that a hypothesis is true, not that a similar theory, finding, or fact is true, so therefore your hypothesis must be true as well.

When you make that assumption you are simply using bad science.
Edited by Rickles - 10/1/13 at 9:50am
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Wasn't liquid silicon a possibility for biological life forms, except it had trouble with double bonds?

In anycase, I hope they give even more money to NASA.
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Call me when aliens take me off this cruel world. Then again, they'll probably be horrible. We just think they won't.
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Call me when aliens take me off this cruel world. Then again, they'll probably be horrible. We just think they won't.

But they will have nice computers! i want to get one and play games on super alienware computer made by alien. tongue.giflmaosmiley.gif
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Bah, in all likelihood they'll be like "look at me I'm so better" and "listen to me, I'm so superior". And they establish an empire. And we work for them for scraps.
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I am speaking in realistic terms. If we are supposed to live on Mars with current or near current technology (say 100 years into the future) it would be impossible. You can't use all the energy you have to produce water as it is volatile. Say you use a 2000F or 50,000HP generator/furnace to make 5,000 gallons of water. On Mars atmosphere, that would be used in a day, if not mere hours. And you need to make more, but your fuel is gone because you were using it for other things too like lighting, work and recreational purposes. You know, living.

That's why I said there is no life on Mars. There is simply not enough (if any) H2O to support life as we know it.

If we're going to live on Mars, it will be in fully contained habitats. I think it's safe to assume that since we would be living in sealed environments that we would capture and reuse nearly 100% of all the water we used. Once we have collected enough water from Mars to support our habitat, we should be set until we want to grow to support more people and other life. In this way water could be thought of more as a building material than a consumable.

Oxygen and hydrogen are useful as propellants which could strain the water supply since that would consume the water, and you'd have to recapture it from the atmosphere. We can get oxgyen from the CO2-rich atmosphere but water is basically the only significant supply of hydrogen on Mars.

As someone else mentioned, there is a lot of water ice at the poles. If we really wanted to terraform Mars much of this would probably be melting anyways in like 5000 years. Another ideas is to redirect icy comets to impact Mars and donate their water.

As far as life already existing on Mars...I'm going to bed
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Not 100% related to the topic but I fail to understand the reason why there must be water in a planet for that planet to have living organisms or aliens if you will... Many scientists just write off life on a planet if there isn't water.

Can't other organisms have different means of survivaiL?

back on topic, I wish instead of fighting each other, we would attempt on exploring the universe further. Hopefully this news can do that.
The whole point is if water exists, then its very possible life forms existed. Since we can use our own planet as a prime example (even we humans are a water based species).
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