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Hi guys,
Currently building a computer (Only a cheap system, it actually didn't cost me anything)

The case is a CIT S003B with the PSU supplied with it, basically the PSU won't fit with the motherboard I have, so have removed the PSU internals and will be mounting this on the inside of the case to give me some extra room, everything will fit now but I just wanted to know what wires (230/240v) go where

The PSU cable has blue, green/yellow and brown

I know blue is positive, brown is neutral and green/yellow is earth (Please correct me if I'm wrong, been a while since I did anything with electrics)

Anyone familiar with this case will know the PSU is mounted at the front of the case and there is a cable extension to the back of the case to plug it in and the PSU box its self has its own plug inside the case, now that has been removed as said above the PSU won't fit while its in its case.

The wires coming from the PSU circuit board are one black one white and the green/yellow went from the connector straight to the case of the PSU (to earth it, obviously)
I was just wondering which is the positive and which is neautral? As obviously I don't want to wire it up then either blow the PSU its self or even worse the mobo/processor (Although I got them for nothing I don't really want to wreck a brand new mobo and i3)

Big thanks in advanced for any help smile.gif

Also just to add, anyone worried about the cooling of the PSU once it is fitted, the fan is mounted next to it and although isn't aimed directly at the PSU there should be enough airflow to cool it enough, I may add some sort of cover to the fan to direct the airflow better.
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post #2 of 15
Dont take the PSU parts out of the box thats pretty much the worst thing in the world you can do
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post #3 of 15
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

Dont take the PSU parts out of the box thats pretty much the worst thing in the world you can do

No choice as there is no other way of mounting it in the case, it won't be shorting out on anything and has plenty of clearance, also it's not screwed directly to the side panel, it's on some stand-offs to make sure it's well clear of everything
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post #4 of 15
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No choice as there is no other way of mounting it in the case, it won't be shorting out on anything and has plenty of clearance, also it's not screwed directly to the side panel, it's on some stand-offs to make sure it's well clear of everything

There is a good reason why its in a box

Thats to protect your other hardware from EMR and EMI

Taking it out of the box is downright dangerous

Cant say anything then if you want to do it dont be surprised when something stops working or dies
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post #5 of 15
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

There is a good reason why its in a box

Thats to protect your other hardware from EMR and EMI

Taking it out of the box is downright dangerous

Cant say anything then if you want to do it dont be surprised when something stops working or dies

Do you have any other suggestions?

Also what does EMR and EMI stand for?
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post #6 of 15
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Originally Posted by Danny1107 View Post

Do you have any other suggestions?

Also what does EMR and EMI stand for?

EMI = Electromagnetic interference

EMR = Electromagnetic radiation

What you have done is remove the bigest part of the EMI / EMR shield

So now you got the inside parts of the PSU pumping EMI and EMR stright into your PC with little to no shield in place

Dont know how good that is for your hardware but dont think they will last very long

Am not the bigest expert on radiation in the world so is this is just me assuming?

If an expert can say otherwise i welcome that
Edited by shilka - 9/30/13 at 6:04am
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post #7 of 15
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

EMI = Electromagnetic interference

EMR = Electromagnetic radiation

What you have done is remove the bigest part of the EMI / EMR shield

So now you got the inside parts of the PSU pumping EMI and EMR stright into your PC with little to no shield in place

Dont know how good that is for your hardware but dont think they will last very long

Am not the bigest expert on radiation in the world so if this is just me assuming

If an expert can say otherwise i welcome that

I understand what you're saying, personally I don't see how some really thin metal is going to stop it.

Something else I was thinking was remove the fan from the PSU and basically make the box smaller, but then there will be even less airflow over it.

Could you suggest any other small PSU's? As this one is the smallest I've seen and without changing either the case, motherboard or PSU it's not going to fit, I'd prefer to spend as little as possible and would also prefer to keep this case as it's nice and small.
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post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by Danny1107 View Post

I understand what you're saying, personally I don't see how some really thin metal is going to stop it.

Something else I was thinking was remove the fan from the PSU and basically make the box smaller, but then there will be even less airflow over it.

Could you suggest any other small PSU's? As this one is the smallest I've seen and without changing either the case, motherboard or PSU it's not going to fit, I'd prefer to spend as little as possible and would also prefer to keep this case as it's nice and small.

How about an SFX PSU like say one of the Be Quiet ones or a SilverStone SFX gold

Smallest i know of
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How about an SFX PSU like say one of the Be Quiet ones or a SilverStone SFX gold

Smallest i know of

They are the same size as the one I have now frown.gif I think I may have a solution, would mean butchering the HDD caddy though but might just fit after that.
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post #10 of 15
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They are the same size as the one I have now frown.gif I think I may have a solution, would mean butchering the HDD caddy though but might just fit after that.

I think thats better
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