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post #1 of 6
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HI all,

I am new and am going to start playing with Tec cooling and wanted to get some insight.

First let me say at the moment I am not looking to get into extreme cooling rather simply match or surpass my current water-cooling capabilities. I would like to keep my temp above ambient and not have to deal with the moisture issue.

My current plan is to use my existing water bolocks with a single loop and cool my CPU and video card.

A couple of basic questions I have though and cannot seem to find the information anywhere but it maybe I am using the incorrect search terms.

Do I need to use dedicated aluminum and copper plates for hot and cold sides of Tec or can I put the tec directly on the cpu and waterblock straight on the hot side of the tec?

Also, are there any commercially available controllers out there which i can simply connect and manage the tec? I was looking at www.arqtik.com but unfortunately it appears they are no longer around and I don't know anything about building a controller.

Once I learn about Tec and have become comfortable with it I will then begin venturing into the realm of below ambient cooling.

Thanks in advance for the advice and insight.

Phil

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post #2 of 6
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I actually found a similar post after putting this up, so now I have the answer...Sorry for the repeat question.

But in doing other research about chillers I thought i read but cannot find now a quote that basically stated "with a chiller you don't have condensation worries.

Is this accurate or did I mis-read a statement in one of the threads which I cannot find now??

Thanks again,
post #3 of 6
Your best bet is with a chiller and a controller to keep the fluid above dew point.. You can then reuse your CPU block with just block>chiller>pump and make a second loop for the hot side using your current rad setup with a second pump and res

You can't easily do direct die cooling with a waterblock since CPU blocks are engineered to cool the center die of a processor, while TECs need the whole surface cooled. You can mod the block, but its usually better to get a proper channel design TEC cooler that flows from one side to the other and cools the whole surface.
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At the moment, there's no commercially available tec controllers on the market, but I will be coming out with my own soon. Its build log is here. This first version should be able to handle 32A and 60V, although that voltage is unsafe and standard AUX PSU's don't go above 48V for DC. A kick starter would have definitely sped up the R&D part of this process, but oh well biggrin.gif I managed OK. It is about 65 - 75% complete as a project. The only thing left is to get all the parts together, make the PCB. The code for the controller will most likely be open source and you can flash it with your own versions if you want, but the default firmware will allow you to choose between staying above dew point, setting a target temperature and controlling the power of the TEC.
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Originally Posted by Krow View Post

At the moment, there's no commercially available tec controllers on the market, but I will be coming out with my own soon. Its build log is here. This first version should be able to handle 32A and 60V, although that voltage is unsafe and standard AUX PSU's don't go above 48V for DC. A kick starter would have definitely sped up the R&D part of this process, but oh well biggrin.gif I managed OK. It is about 65 - 75% complete as a project. The only thing left is to get all the parts together, make the PCB. The code for the controller will most likely be open source and you can flash it with your own versions if you want, but the default firmware will allow you to choose between staying above dew point, setting a target temperature and controlling the power of the TEC.

Should have made a kickstarter, I'd of pledge a good 500 CAD for that.
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My current plan is to use my existing water bolocks with a single loop and cool my CPU and video card.

eek.gif...don't do that they may get burned...painful indeed redface.gif
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