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Hi there,

So, it's been a while since I upgraded my storage solution and I just wanted to check with the community to see what's best performing these days. I don't really have a budget but I'm not looking to waste money on something that I won't use. My current storage set up is in my rig but just in case you can't be bothered to look, it's the following -

Corsair F60 60GB SSD - Boot drive

2 x Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB currently set up in RAID0 - Storage

I am starting to run out of space on each of my drives. Currently running less than 5GB free on the SSD and less than 200GB on my RAID array. So, just going on what I have used to know was good, I have chosen the following items to be set up how I currently run my storage solution.

Samsung MZ-7PD128BW 128GB 840 Pro Series Basic Enterprise Class SSD

2 x Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black Performance Hard Drive 7200rpm 64MB Cache in RAID0

What do you guys think? Solid choice is there something better that I could pick up for less, the same or a little more money?

Much appreciated,
Crooksy.
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Why the RAID 0 on the storage drives? I would opt for a single 2 TB drive.
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SSD: Great, but overpriced. I'd go with a 250GB 840 or 840 EVO instead. They're around 150 pounds each with the EVO being a bit more expensive. They're TLC drives which means writes will be slower, but the EVO has a buffer to help alleviate that. If you need fast write speeds all the time, then a Plextor M5P (and I think the M6P is out) is a bit cheaper with around the same performance.

HDD: Bad and overpriced. 1TB WD Blues (WD10EZEX) or 1TB 7200.14 Seagate Barracudas can sustain 150-170MB/s sequential speeds and burst at 200MB/s. In RAID 0 they approach SSD speeds sequentially. Blacks aren't very good since they use 500GB platters instead of 1TB platters (like every other WD drive and most other Seagate drives).

EDIT: You can also try and find caching software for the RAID array and use the old SSD so it acts like a hybrid drive. I also recommend you copy all the files on the Blacks to whatever new drives you get and then put them in RAID 1 to back up important files.
Edited by CynicalUnicorn - 9/30/13 at 1:03pm
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The WD 1 tb blue 10ezex is actually faster than the black due to the fact they use 1 tb platters thumb.gif

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-wd-blue-wd10ezex-sata-6gb-s-7200rpm-64mb-cache-8ms-hdd

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Why the RAID 0 on the storage drives? I would opt for a single 2 TB drive.

Because I would like the performance of RAID0 and the space of 2TB.
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SSD: Great, but overpriced. I'd go with a 250GB 840 or 840 EVO instead. They're around 150 pounds each with the EVO being a bit more expensive. They're TLC drives which means writes will be slower, but the EVO has a buffer to help alleviate that. If you need fast write speeds all the time, then a Plextor M5P (and I think the M6P is out) is a bit cheaper with around the same performance.

HDD: Bad and overpriced. 1TB WD Blues (WD10EZEX) or 1TB 7200.14 Seagate Barracudas can sustain 150-170MB/s sequential speeds and burst at 200MB/s. In RAID 0 they approach SSD speeds sequentially. Blacks aren't very good since they use 500GB platters instead of 1TB platters (like every other WD drive and most other Seagate drives).

EDIT: You can also try and find caching software for the RAID array and use the old SSD so it acts like a hybrid drive. I also recommend you copy all the files on the Blacks to whatever new drives you get and then put them in RAID 1 to back up important files.

Wow, lots of good information there. For the extra £60 odd, it looks like it's worth going for the 256 840 Pro

Seems strange of WD to drop the ball and let the blues outperform the blacks. It looks as if I'll grab 2 of the blues then!

What about the Corsair 240GB Force Series? It appears to have a good spec yet I don't ever see it recommended. It's even cheaper than the Samsung.
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Honestly, I'm not too sure about how Corsair's drives are. Performance SSDs versus budget SSDs don't have huge real-world differences in normal applications. I know that Corsair's are all above-average, but they use Sandforce controllers which had some issues in older versions (that have since been resolved), don't handle incompressible data quite as well as Marvell (Crucial's drives, for example) or Samsung's controllers, and they require a bit more overprovisioning (space left empty in the drive to ensure peak performance) to function as well when nearly full.

That's not to say that they're bad by any means, but they aren't the absolute best. Then again, nothing will be for too long. SSDs have come a long way in price and performance in just five years. I was seriously considering a 180GB Force or Neutron for my laptop but eventually went with the 250GB 840 now in my desktop. I figured I wouldn't be able to use the performance boost because it's only SATA II and 70GB more for $30 less? Yes please. I recommend you get at least 180GB though, otherwise you'll need to upgrade sooner. 128GB can store several games and an OS, but that's about it. (Though most games prefer sequential speeds over random speeds which you should be able to get on even your current RAID array, the SSD can be used for frequently played and currently-obsessed-with games)

As for the HDD, I had also assumed the Blacks were faster and was surprised that they weren't. That's why I and many others are using them. It does seem counter-intuitive, doesn't it? The drives marketed for budget purposes are faster than the ones marketed for performance.
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As for the SSD, you can't do better than the 840Pro or Plextor M5P Xtreme.

HDD's, I'd stick to the WD10EZEX. They've proven themselves to me, and while the 7200.14's can be very good, there's been an issue with people getting them with smaller platters (more) as opposed to the 1TB platters they are supposed tohhave, most prevalent with the2TB b ut I believe all are susceptible to varying degrees.
   
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Honestly, I'm not too sure about how Corsair's drives are. Performance SSDs versus budget SSDs don't have huge real-world differences in normal applications. I know that Corsair's are all above-average, but they use Sandforce controllers which had some issues in older versions (that have since been resolved), don't handle incompressible data quite as well as Marvell (Crucial's drives, for example) or Samsung's controllers, and they require a bit more overprovisioning (space left empty in the drive to ensure peak performance) to function as well when nearly full.

That's not to say that they're bad by any means, but they aren't the absolute best. Then again, nothing will be for too long. SSDs have come a long way in price and performance in just five years. I was seriously considering a 180GB Force or Neutron for my laptop but eventually went with the 250GB 840 now in my desktop. I figured I wouldn't be able to use the performance boost because it's only SATA II and 70GB more for $30 less? Yes please. I recommend you get at least 180GB though, otherwise you'll need to upgrade sooner. 128GB can store several games and an OS, but that's about it. (Though most games prefer sequential speeds over random speeds which you should be able to get on even your current RAID array, the SSD can be used for frequently played and currently-obsessed-with games)

As for the HDD, I had also assumed the Blacks were faster and was surprised that they weren't. That's why I and many others are using them. It does seem counter-intuitive, doesn't it? The drives marketed for budget purposes are faster than the ones marketed for performance.

Quote:
Originally Posted by nleksan View Post

As for the SSD, you can't do better than the 840Pro or Plextor M5P Xtreme.

HDD's, I'd stick to the WD10EZEX. They've proven themselves to me, and while the 7200.14's can be very good, there's been an issue with people getting them with smaller platters (more) as opposed to the 1TB platters they are supposed tohhave, most prevalent with the2TB b ut I believe all are susceptible to varying degrees.

Thanks for the great info guys. Definitely some useful stuff to remember. As i'm not hugely budget conscious and am happy to pay for the better product, I think I will go for the Samsung and WD blue 1TB drives.
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