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This is my first post. I was told that i could get very good advice on how to build the best computer while on a budget from these forums.

So, I was really close to buying a combo from Newegg but a friend started asking me questions as to why I was getting certain parts in the build. I don't know that much about computers (just the very basics of each component) so I couldn't answer him very well. I was told the build was decent though.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1392030

Budget: $1000-1300 I won't need Windows 7.

Main purpose of build: Video games such as BF4, Starcraft 2, Bioshock Infinite, and League of Legends all on ultra thumb.gif settings with stable high fps.

But I would like to have a computer that is very solid all around that can last a long time without me having to replace something.

Questions:

I was thinking about buying my friends GTX 660 eventually so I could dual GTX 660, but then I heard that it wasn't worth getting because some graphic cards such as a 770 or 760 can be cheaper and more powerful than both, is this true?

Is the 4000 series for the CPU really worth getting? Can I save money by just getting a i7 3770 or an AMD processor?



If anyone can help me by creating better rig for less or improving on this combo while staying within the budget, then I will worship them!

I do like the Thermaltake Overseer look but I'm fine with any look-alike Full-tower.

Also , I need built in WIFI for the mobo.

Thank you so muuuuuch!

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Edited by Apeterm - 9/30/13 at 10:10pm
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In regards to your question on the GTX 660 or getting a new series 760 or 770, it really just depends on what your happy to spend. Im not sure if getting a new series card would be any 'cheaper' than the 660. Unless your talking about price/performance wise. In which case im not sure.

As for the processor the 4770k is a good chip, but pretty much 100% of the time AMD does much better in the price/performance department. So if it was me i would probably get an AMD chip in order to be able to get a more impressive graphics card, like the 770 or such. If your super keen on intels performance/core id consider getting the 3770k for the same reason above. To be able to put a bit more into a nicer graphics card. (which is where you will be able to make the most improvement in games for you money)

The combo build looks good, except buying your parts yourself would probably allow you to get a better computer for what you want.
The memory on the combo build is good, but if you were looking for the best gaming rig you could get for that 1000-1300 price range you probably wouldn't see much benefit of the 16Gb of ram over just getting 8Gb. The only other place i would maybe change something if i was to build it my self would be to get a 600 or a 650 watt power supply as 750W is quite alot for that build if im not mistaken.

I suppose i would suggest you make your own after all that smile.gif it would allow you to spend less on what you don't really need for what you want to do, and more on the important stuff wink.gif i.e. graphics for them games.

Hope some of this helped man!
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Yeah, Newegg chose a PSU that's very overkill, but I am assuming that they are just trying to make sure the buyer has plenty of room for upgrades, such as maybe replacing the GTX 660 with two GTX 780s.

 

I think that we here at OCN could help you build a better system for either the same total cost or less. Although, I think that I'll only be able to help with selecting the PSU.

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A number of things...

Do you need a display with it, or do you have one you are happy with?

Do you need keyboard/mouse/headset/speakers, any other externals?

I would recommend not getting a motherboard with Wifi built into it, and get an external Wifi adapter if you need Wifi. First, your external adapter is going to have a high gain, and have stronger signal strength. Secondly, if it fails, you can simply swap it out no big deal.

Last, are you wanting to overclock at all, or are you confident in that you won't have any interest in the slightest bit in doing that?
    
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I don't think I will be overclocking at all.

Also, I'd still be able to buy a wireless adapter even with this mobo right?
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I'm not the best at large budget builds(I do better in the 300-600$ range), but here's a attempt. I'm sure if it's bad or something could be better they'll tell me/you.

CPU($295 with promo code EMCWXXW22) - Intel Core i7-4770 Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116900

Motherboard($145) - GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-D3H LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128591

RAM($115 with promo code EMCWXXW44) - Team 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313354

GPU($310) - GIGABYTE GV-R797OC-3GD Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-bit GDDR5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125413

SSD($130) - SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD128BW 2.5" 128GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147192

PSU+HDD($160) - Western Digital WD Black 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s + Rosewill CAPSTONE-550-M 550W, 80 PLUS GOLD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1429634

Case($80) - COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN3-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197

CPU Heatsink($35) - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

Total Price - $1278 with shipping included, rebates not included.

That should be a pretty good build as far as I know, but you might want a Nvidia GPU, or perhaps you plan on doing crossfire later then it'd be a good idea to spend a bit on a more powerful PSU.

I heard SSDs are a big leap in performance, but you might not want one/need one. 16GB of RAM for future-proofing.
Edited by Alanim - 10/4/13 at 3:45am
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Ok ..I'll take a stab at it smile.gif First of all:I'm no pro redface.gif

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138381 $100 This a full-featured motherboard.solid..for cheap...and it has 10 phases in case you ever decide to overclock rolleyes.gif

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901 $340

Case: Something from here.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007583%20600006302&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Pagesize=100 I wouldn't go over $50 shipped..

or..not sure why you need a full tower but.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007583%20600006304&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=100 $88

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153170 $90

RAM: 2X these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148553 $88 When i want to game stable..I use the Ballistix.

GPU: No budget for 780-Titan..So I'm going to say 7950.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161420 Don't worry..It'll still run any game on highest.. $230

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/855?vs=860

SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147247 $120

HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136497 $64

dvd burner : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289 $18

Wi-Fi: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2J60SZ6162 $7

Total: $1107-45 I'd rather have 1 powerful GPU,multi-GPU stuff can be headaches.
Edited by Schmuckley - 10/4/13 at 12:05pm
 
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cheap! Newegg box panel ibeats with onboard. 
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