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You sure do talk a lot about your wonderful titans. At 4K the Titans are gonna fall short to the 290X. As far as OC potential, not sure about your crystal ball and its accuracy, but I doubt you can say with certainty whether it will or not. And don't forget all that OC potential in your beloved Titans is a modded bios. That's like buying a Corvette and adding a Supercharger and then claiming Covettes are superior when in fact using the stock settings given you the Corvette isn't. (not an opinion on Corvette just an example). I am certain that with stock bioses the 290X will lead the Titan. And notice I don't feel the need to add qualifiers to the statement.
^^^^^

its like trying to tell how a OCed i5 water cooled beat 6 core stock i7. lol The market doesnt work that way, vast majority of them are only looking @ stock performance.biggrin.gif
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You sure do talk a lot about your wonderful titans. At 4K the Titans are gonna fall short to the 290X. As far as OC potential, not sure about your crystal ball and its accuracy, but I doubt you can say with certainty whether it will or not. And don't forget all that OC potential in your beloved Titans is a modded bios. That's like buying a Corvette and adding a Supercharger and then claiming Covettes are superior when in fact using the stock settings given you the Corvette isn't. (not an opinion on Corvette just an example). I am certain that with stock bioses the 290X will lead the Titan. And notice I don't feel the need to add qualifiers to the statement.


were talking about maximum overclocking potential, not a stock battle. stop acting like putting a modded bios on a card is hard, with the flash tool it is literally one button click and it takes all of 5 seconds and a reset and youre ready.
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Are you seriously saying installing a supercharger to a Corvette is the same as flashing a modded bios? That would only make sense if Chevy gave every Corvette owner a free supercharger along with it. Otherwise it makes no sense, one takes alot of time and money, one takes 15 seconds and no money...they are basically the same!
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You sure do talk a lot about your wonderful titans. At 4K the Titans are gonna fall short to the 290X. As far as OC potential, not sure about your crystal ball and its accuracy, but I doubt you can say with certainty whether it will or not. And don't forget all that OC potential in your beloved Titans is a modded bios. That's like buying a Corvette and adding a Supercharger and then claiming Covettes are superior when in fact using the stock settings given you the Corvette isn't. (not an opinion on Corvette just an example). I am certain that with stock bioses the 290X will lead the Titan. And notice I don't feel the need to add qualifiers to the statement.

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^^^^^

its like trying to tell how a OCed i5 water cooled beat 6 core stock i7. lol The market doesnt work that way, vast majority of them are only looking @ stock performance.biggrin.gif

7000 series vs. 600 series. "OC'd performance is what matters! 7000 series are better deals than the 600s because they OC better!"

GK110 vs. Hawaii "Stock is what most of the market is interested in anyways. Taking 2 minutes to update a bios doesn't count."

Seriously. We aren't on Tom's hardware, we know how to update bioses. And if you want a card that's much faster at stock than a Titan and OCs just fine on the stock bios buy a 780 classy. Pretty much the same price as the 290X is gonna be as well. But if you have the knowledge to get more performance out of a card then why wouldn't you? It makes no sense. Why would the people here who know how to update a bios in 2 minutes not do so if they are looking for the best possible performance.

Yes. For the normal gamer who doesn't OC, a Titan makes no sense. You can get better performance from a $640 windforce 780 if you want. But no one cares about that here since that's not what we do with your cards.

On here we go for the max performance. And that' why the 7970 is a better buy than a 680 for example. And unless the 290X can clock better than the Titan it wont be as fast as the Titan. It's slower clock for clock so good luck in getting it over 1400mhz on water when that's the sort of frequency people are reporting for LN2.

As for the 4K point. We have surround/eyefinity benches at 4xMSAA where a 1050MHz 290X is on par with a ~980MHz Titan (assumed clock, we don't know if it held its boost all the time or if it boosted to exactly that frequency). What happens when you clock the Titan to 1300MHz? To 1350MHz?

Honestly I'm going to be surprised if the 290X can even beat or match a 780 when both are at their max OCs. So far it seems like it's just a couple of per cent faster than GK100-300 clock for clock. And everything i pointing to it not clocking as well.
 
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7000 series vs. 600 series. "OC'd performance is what matters! 7000 series are better deals than the 600s because they OC better!"

GK110 vs. Hawaii "Stock is what most of the market is interested in anyways. Taking 2 minutes to update a bios doesn't count."

Seriously. We aren't on Tom's hardware, we know how to update bioses. And if you want a card that's much faster at stock than a Titan and OCs just fine on the stock bios buy a 780 classy. Pretty much the same price as the 290X is gonna be as well. But if you have the knowledge to get more performance out of a card then why wouldn't you? It makes no sense. Why would the people here who know how to update a bios in 2 minutes not do so if they are looking for the best possible performance.

Yes. For the normal gamer who doesn't OC, a Titan makes no sense. You can get better performance from a $640 windforce 780 if you want. But no one cares about that here since that's not what we do with your cards.

On here we go for the max performance. And that' why the 7970 is a better buy than a 680 for example. And unless the 290X can clock better than the Titan it wont be as fast as the Titan. It's slower clock for clock so good luck in getting it over 1400mhz on water when that's the sort of frequency people are reporting for LN2.

As for the 4K point. We have surround/eyefinity benches at 4xMSAA where a 1050MHz 290X is on par with a ~980MHz Titan (assumed clock, we don't know if it held its boost all the time or if it boosted to exactly that frequency). What happens when you clock the Titan to 1300MHz? To 1350MHz?

Honestly I'm going to be surprised if the 290X can even beat or match a 780 when both are at their max OCs. So far it seems like it's just a couple of per cent faster than GK100-300 clock for clock. And everything i pointing to it not clocking as well.
None of what you say of 290X is proven as of yet. That is my original point. I think you're sweating. 64 ROPs and 512 bit bus is gonna put a hurt on you.
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lol, alatar posts a well thought out post explaining his reasoning

you reply with " nuh uh youre wrong "

try again.

also, going on about unconfirmed info on it, meanwhile the NDA isnt even lifted on the 290x yet and all of alatars info is somehow wrong and unconfirmed, but all the unconfirmed rumors that you wish were true are somehow okay.
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Honestly I'm going to be surprised if the 290X can even beat or match a 780 when both are at their max OCs. So far it seems like it's just a couple of per cent faster than GK100-300 clock for clock. And everything i pointing to it not clocking as well.

And this is based on what exactly?
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lol, alatar posts a well thought out post explaining his reasoning

you reply with " nuh uh youre wrong "

try again.

also, going on about unconfirmed info on it, meanwhile the NDA isnt even lifted on the 290x yet and all of alatars info is somehow wrong and unconfirmed, but all the unconfirmed rumors that you wish were true are somehow okay.
both the 64 ROPS and 512 bit bus are confirmed. Try again.
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both the 64 ROPS and 512 bit bus are confirmed. Try again.

yeah okay, everyones known that, and that proves the 290x overclocks better than the titan how exactly?

straws

youre grasping at them.
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