Originally Posted by theturbofd
1. All opinion
2. COD's netcode > BF no matter how you put it as client side isn't good at all
3. Or it could be they wanted to sell out instead of sticking to what they do best. Then again do you even know why COD is so successful? It's not because of the lame excuse you guys use like "they're all 12" it's because their formula for gameplay is great and they tend to the people who like it. They don't need to change just to satisfy people who don't.
4. It's no where near well done. To do well on that map you basically have to have a team camp the roof and spam M320s, air bursts and RPGs. 2 ladders which are easily camped as well as 1 elevator are the only access points. So basically it's a race to the roof and anyone who has ever played it can easily tell you that.
5. You mean the fact that I come in to these threads to put you and the other blind haters in their place? Someone's got to do it especially when you throw around false info like "COD has terrible netcode". You can easily tell you're a blind hater especially when your only response when being called one is " I have COD so I must not be a hater".
6. Really? So me telling him that COD is irrelevant means I'm bringing it up eh? Seems legit.
1. That's not really an opinion. I've seen plenty of people who had issues in BF3 state they were much better in BF4. Obviously there will still be people with issues because it will never be perfect, but as far as I've seen, it's been improved. Then there was Bad Company 2 which had a big issue with laggy hit-boxes where, for example, you could snipe someone running and watch your bullet hit them directly in the head and watch their whole body flinch and blood splatter, but they wouldn't take any damage whatsoever. Then BF2 and BF2142 both had some similar issues with laggy hit-boxes although much worse with BF2 then there was really bad rubber banding as well, even with a lower ping. At least with the main issue that people face with BF3 and BF4 which is dying behind cover, the reality of the situation is you would have died anyway. It's just taking a little longer for the higher ping players' bullets to register hitting you, but they would have hit you no matter what so you simply would have die right before getting to cover. I know people experience issues with shots not registering but it's not something I hear about as much. Thankfully I don't have problems whatsoever in either BF3 or BF4, although I've experienced the issues in BC2, 2142 and BF2.
2. Well first of all, Battlefield 4 doesn't use client-side hit detection nor did BF3. They actually use a hybrid hit detection which has the client and server working together to determine hits. Being 100% server side would not be any better. Secondly, whether or not CoD's is better is really debatable. Saying CoD's netcode is terrible and has been getting worse each new iteration is not false information. It's actually one of the biggest complaints about more recent Call of Duty games. I know you're going to try to spin it this way, but I am in no way saying Battlefield's netcode is good, it's just actually improving with each new iteration whereas CoD's seemingly isn't. Whether this will be the case for Ghosts, I have no idea.
3. CoD is successful because it's extremely accessible and it has very easy, fast and fun gameplay. I don't know why you assume I'm one of those people who says everyone who plays is twelve because I've never said anything like that. You assume I hate the game because I've said stated I was simply bored of the formula, which I am because the games really haven't changed much since CoD4 and I've invested over a thousand hours into the series combined since then. I just wouldn't mind if they implemented something new that freshened up the formula a little bit which I was kind of hoping from Ghosts, but that didn't happen so I'm skipping the game. I don't expect or want them to dramatically change the formula.
Anyway, selling out would imply that DICE abandoned their core fan-base which they really didn't do. The inclusion of close quarters really just increased variety which is always a positive thing. I wouldn't say it negatively affected any other aspect of the game. If you didn't like that kind of gameplay, you didn't have to play it and there were plenty of large scale and vehicle heavy maps and modes to pick from. Now you have BF4 which furthers itself even more awau from CoD with how certain things like field upgrades work as well the implementation of beloved classic Battlefield features that didn't make it into BF3.
4. The problem is being on the roof means you're not on the ground where the flags are. If your team isn't capping flags, you're losing. There's also points at each flag that can't be seen from the roof. I know this because that's exactly what the enemy team did my last two rounds that I played in domination and guess what? They got absolutely destroyed. Doesn't matter that they probably had more kills, we held the flags the whole time.
I'd say the configuration is really nice. There's lots of routes around the map despite being quite small and obviously lots of verticality. There's lots of possibilities to flank your enemy which means it's also easy for you to get flanked so you have to stay on your toes and be aware of your surroundings and be sure to keep your eyes up on the roof. I could imagine it being hectic in a 64 player match, but it's not really designed for that. 32 players was a lot of fun and I can imagine it getting extremely competitive with 12v12.
5. So you're agreeing that you come into these threads to instigate arguments? Really, you shouldn't be trying to put any "blind haters" in their place. The fact that you go around calling people fanboys or blind haters for having a difference in opinion or disagreeing with you or what you consider facts makes it really hard to take you seriously. The worst part is that all throughout this thread you've been hating on BF4. I wouldn't care if you offered some sort of constructive criticism, but spouting off things like "It's just BF3.5" and "DICE isn't going to fix anything!" as well as, again, calling people blind or fanboys for seeing things differently is just a bit silly and unnecessary.