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Update! Changing case to M8
Hi everyone, had a few questions, and completely new to "custom" water cooling. I'm moved away from AIR and currently on a Corsair h90, recently bought an H100i for my new rig I'm building, but while deciding on a case, then picking on, I started picking up on the latest and greatest, and was really turned on by alot of the artwork people were making with their cases using custom loops.

So I'm here to learn, (and read 5000+ pages in between my hw assignments ) and hoping to get some better insight, as well as top recommendations for a good loop. I'm looking for top recommended parts, CPU Blocks, GPU Blocks, RAD's , sizes, pipe sizes, fittings, etc. So far the top 2 I keep seeing mentioned are EK ( mainly people sanding down the blocks which looks AMAZING crystal clear ) and XSBC.

I have just about everything purchased for my rig except for the motherboard which won't be out till the end of the month.

My Rig parts:

Corsair Carbide Air540 Case
Corsair H100i Cooler (Still have time to return it)
Corsair AX1200i PSU
Corsair professional braided cables (red)
Corsair SP 120 Extreme performance 2 pack x 4

Samsung 1TB Evo SSD
Corsair 3 196gb SSD ( from previous system)

Evga Stock Titan x1 (looking to get a 2nd )

G.Skill Trident X 32gb 8 x 4 2400 (looking to get a 2nd pack for 64gb next New egg sale )

4960x CPU

Mother board will be the Asus RIVE BE, originally was going to go with the setup above, but someone made a good point in the Asus thread, stating if you're going to get high end parts, then it would be insane NOT to research into WC.

I'd love to either get a colored loop or understand how to get the colored liquid as Red would be my preferred color running through the case.

Appreciate any input and direction!

After looking at other builds I decided at least on my layout. I want to do top and front rads but no bottom. Since 3 rads would be preferable ill do a 120 on the psu side above it.

Id like to go EK/xbpc if anyone can recommend the best pumps and best quality fittings and parts. Money isnt an issue.
Edited by LunaP - 10/4/13 at 1:08pm
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If you are going to cool multiple GPU's I would at least consider a D5 vario from either Swiftech or EK.

Also you cant go wrong with them since they have reps on these forums and provide helpful advise and good support. I have some XSPC components however their support is close to none which is something to keep in mind. At this point all Im still happy about are their fittings.

As far as coolant if you are going to go with plexi blocks then it makes sense to use colored coolant, Mayhem has great colors and you can add dyes to make it darker or make custom shades. Keep in mind that coolant will operate at slightly higher temperatures than water however coolants are safer against galvanic corrosion and algae buildup in your loop to keep things healthy.

As far as acrylic tubing, it is much more of a challenge to work with than regular tubing although it looks great and has less of a chance of getting clouding in your loop due to plasticizer and the tubing turning white. Primochill advanced LTR would be the tubing of choice as its the one with less issues and the company is great when responding to support issues. Personally that's my next project on my rig, changing to solid tubing.

I'm using the EK FC waterblocks and the performance is very good with my dual card setup.

For radiators I believe you are limited to 240 rads if you are looking for internal only on the case. EK and XSPC have good ones

CPU Block
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_971_498_490&products_id=37570

GPU Block
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_971_240_579&products_id=38210

Radiators
EK
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_457_667_668&products_id=26776
XSPC
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_457_667_671&products_id=32459


As far as fittings I liked the look of XSPC fittings over the rest and Im keeping those, I have never had leaking issues and so far no corrosion.

Hope this helps!
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After seeing some of the posts in the watercooling club thread, I popped over here to have a look.

I think there is some confusion on acrylic tubing... just to clarify, when people refer to acrylic tubing, they're generally referring to the rigid, hard plastic stuff, e.g. E22. The normal tubing is usually PVC (though there are other variants), e.g. Primochill Advanced LRT. I like others here would recommend starting with normal flexible tubing.

Personally I wouldn't bother with the 120mm rad in your setup, the two 360s will probably be enough.

Let us know what you end up deciding on smile.gif
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The case will take a single triple 120mm radiator and a dual 120mm radiator. If you plan on doing two Titans I would do both rads and do a single loop for simplicity sake. The case has a lot of potential and I like the fact that you can lay it on it's side and basically have a horizontal case.
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So a correction on what I said, it will take 120mm triple rad, but it cannot be thick unless you mod the case and take out one of the bottom HD mounts. I tried fitting my Feser in it last night and it would not fit unless I wanted to remove one side of that HD mount.
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Wow appareciate the feedback guys! Especially on the tubing, that's good to know. After alot of drawing out my design , and looking over things, I believe that I may have hit a wall w/ the 540 as far as keeping it clean, any further to achieve my goals would make it an eye sore as I'm looking to build something sexy to look @ though I'd still love to use it, I'm now looking @ the M8 from caselabs, which is similar in design but slightly more room to squeeze things in such as Res's and pumps.

While I still believe its accomplishable with the 540, I do want to hold a fan controller and optical drives, along w/ 3.5's and 2.5's which I think I'd have to sacrifice to get a (better) cooling solution going in from what everyones telling me. As well I'm being told that just the 2 rad's wouldn't suffice for a 6core/dual titan layout ( especially if I ever wanna add a 3rd )

Not sure what you guys think on that but, for now I have a few days left to turn in my case, and I really think the M8 hits home, form factor and customization wise.


So I'll see if I can change the thread title, but would LOVE to hear feed back for styles/parts on this if anyone has any suggestions, I'll def go bitspower for fittings and Res's fromwhat I'm seeing they're very sexy.

As far as XSBC I believe they have some GPU blocks with lighting on them? Might be a diff brand but I saw a CPU and GPU block that had lights around the edges and LOVED the look int he dark.

Would you recommend 2 pumps? As well as 2 Res's or 2 pumps 1 res?

Update after checking doesn't seem I can change the thread title, Should I open a new thread, or can I request the title updated?


best airflow as well I'm being told intake on RAD's vs Exhaust is more efficient. So Top in front in , back out, and maybe other side 1 more somewhere possibly?

Thanks again!
Edited by LunaP - 10/4/13 at 1:10pm
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As far as XSBC I believe they have some GPU blocks with lighting on them? Might be a diff brand but I saw a CPU and GPU block that had lights around the edges and LOVED the look int he dark.

Would you recommend 2 pumps? As well as 2 Res's or 2 pumps 1 res?

Update after checking doesn't seem I can change the thread title, Should I open a new thread, or can I request the title updated?


best airflow as well I'm being told intake on RAD's vs Exhaust is more efficient. So Top in front in , back out, and maybe other side 1 more somewhere possibly?

Thanks again!

You're thinking of the XSPC Raystorm CPU and Razor GPU blocks... they also have a reasonably new res out called the Photon ... made out of glass.. which seems really nice. Have a look at http://www.xs-pc.com/

2 pumps can't hurt... probably not necessary... but it never hurts to have backup.. if you're concerned about sound you may want to have some way of controlling the pumps so you can slow them down. Res's are really only for ease of bleeding and looks.. they don't really have any bearing on performance (apart from perhaps ever so slightly slowing down the time it takes for the water to heat to equilibrium under full load)

Yeah i've heard that about rads... I'm dubious about there being that much difference, but that's just my opinion... I think you probably need to consider how much in air vs how much out you've got overall... depending on whether you want positive or negative pressure. Generally having more in prevents air from being sucked in from locations other than your fan holes etc, which means you can put filters etc over them to hopefully reduce the amount of dust you get inside the case.

At the top of the page go to 'edit thread' (rather than editing a post) - that should allow you to change the thread title.
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