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Greetings everyone, I have reached the limit for my current Sandy at 2.8ghz. My memory is running at 280mhz as well. The system runs great, but I was looking into getting an opty 165 to see if I can hit the 3 ghz barrier, as well as have a nice performance increase with the dual core. I have a couple of questions.

1. Is the opty 165 regarded as the better OCer of the opty's that are out there right now.
2. If so, does New egg have a good assortment of the best steppings?
3. What makes an Opteron better than the X2 series of the A64's?
4. Will there be a noticeable difference between my current setup, and a opty 165 Oced to the same speed, 2.8ghz?
5.Should I not spend the money upgrading to this processor, and just get an AM2 board, processor, and memory?
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103588
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103528



Compare them with stock specs alone...
Yes, most opty 165's are good OC'ers. Sometimes crappy stepping still hit around 2.5Ghz and really good ones 3.0+

The silicon wafer in Opteron's is higher grade which makes Opty's better.

You will see a HUGE difference. Dual Core > Single Core.

No, don't get AM2 because AMD's 4x4 is coming out. Or, get a Conroe rig.
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1. it is cheap and can hit 3ghz
2. no, u buy what they show
3. opty's are better quality than others
4. o yea, anyhting requireing cpu work will double in speed
5. AM2 is only good if u want to spend about $600-$800.


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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103588
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103528

Opty 165
Multi-Core Dual-Core
Name Opteron 165
Operating Frequency 1.8GHz
HT 1000MHz
L1 Cache 128KB+128KB
L2 Cache 2 x 1MB
Process Type 90 nm
Vista Ready Yes
64 bit Support Yes
Hyper-Transport Support Yes
Virtualization Technology Support No
Multimedia Instruction MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, 3DNOW! Professional
Voltage 1.30 V/1.35 V

Sandy 4000+
Multi-Core Single-Core
Name Athlon 64 4000+
Operating Frequency 2.4GHz
HT 2000MHz
L1 Cache 64KB+64KB
L2 Cache 1MB
Process Type 90 nm
Vista Ready Yes
64 bit Support Yes
Hyper-Transport Support Yes
Virtualization Technology Support No
Multimedia Instruction MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, 3DNOW! Professional
Voltage 1.35/1.4V


Compare them with stock specs alone...
Yes, most opty 165's are good OC'ers. Sometimes crappy stepping still hit around 2.5Ghz and really good ones 3.0+

The silicon wafer in Opteron's is higher grade.

You will see a HUGE difference. Dual Core > Single Core.

No, don't get AM2 because AMD's 4x4 is coming out. Or, get a Conroe rig.
optys and other procs have same HT speed, but opty shows the speed ur mobo shows
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1 the opty 165 does usually oc beter tan the other dual core optys
2 not sure about i think it is really just luck of the draw but i know tankguys let you pick your stepping from the stock
3 the opty core are tested much more as they are suppossed to be user in servers that need near 100% uptime for long periods of time sometime the core is even made of the same silicon as the fx series
4 with the 165 being dual core you will see a diference when do a fgew things at a time for example av scan while gaming
5 i would say keep 939 the dfi is the best oc mobo and im not sure if the am2 chips oc as well as 939
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Originally Posted by johonm333 View Post
1. it is cheap and can hit 3ghz
2. no, u buy what they show
3. opty's are better quality than others
4. o yea, anyhting requireing cpu work will double in speed
5. AM2 is only good if u want to spend about $600-$800.




optys and other procs have same HT speed, but opty shows the speed ur mobo shows
Never said they didn't have the same HT
post #6 of 10
One word. Opteron165. Yes its all one word, say it out loud.

THe `egg has been slinging nothing but CCBBE 06XX steppings since october. I ordered one in early dec and I got 0616 (third or fourth best, can reach 3ghz but not as easily as the 0610 chips)
    
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my new opty 165 pwns my old sd 3700+ and i had it at 2.8 Ghz. Single threaded apps see a little benefit but multitasking is outta this world
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my new opty 165 pwns my old sd 3700+ and i had it at 2.8 Ghz. Single threaded apps see a little benefit but multitasking is outta this world
Name some muilti-threaded app's that are out there currently, or are most processor intenstive applicatons multi-threaded?
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the whole set of adobe products such as premier (video editing) (and photoshop (photo editing are some that i know use multithreading.
Edit: and many virus protection programs have multithreaded virus and adware scans which helps a ton
post #10 of 10
Considering the MB, either get the Opty165 because that MB rocks...
Or, whimp out and roll with the single core for a while.
    
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