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I will try prime95 tonight. I think prime95 gives lower temperature than AIDA64 with FPU stress.

It doesn't AFAIK. Most people just don't test the right stuff
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It doesn't AFAIK. Most people just don't test the right stuff

Would you able to give me some idea of what is the temperature I should expect for my cooling system?
currently having:
480 x 2 (push-pull)
240 (push-pull)
D5 x 2 (water flow rate 5.4L/m)
Room temp: ~28
water temp: ~29
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No idea sorry, go try if you want prime 28.1 small fft and avx2 linpack (linx 0.65.0 with ~200gflops so you know it's working properly) though i wouldn't use either for oc testing ever, stress fpu in adia is a bit crazy too
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It doesn't AFAIK. Most people just don't test the right stuff

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Hey,

am still getting great temps. Computer workinf smooth. Have installed a cooler on my games card too now.

Its just been running sweetly since I upgraded.

I am getting temps of 63-67C at 1.328V whilst running at 4.5GHz

Was tested using Prime95



Your temps do look high, but I dont think I am the best person to advise. I had to take advise too. thumb.gifthumb.gifthumb.gifbiggrin.gif

Hope everythings works out for ya smile.gif

Hi Cyro999 and drp68175

Should I expect the water temperature of CPU block outlet to be at least warm?
My is same or even 1 degree less the water temperature come out of the pump.

Is this wrong?

I have tried reseat the block again, still no luck, not sure what I did was wrong. First water cooled PC....doh.gif

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Hi Cyro999 and drp68175

Should I expect the water temperature of CPU block outlet to be at least warm?
My is same or even 1 degree less the water temperature come out of the pump.

Is this wrong?

I have tried reseat the block again, still no luck, not sure what I did was wrong. First water cooled PC....doh.gif

Thanks

It depends on the order of your loop and components. I know that depending on the pump the temperature can go up by 1 degree right after it leaves the pump on idle however it should level out for a while when the CPU is on load. I like to measure fluid temperature after it leaves the rad and after it leaves the block to understand the deltas.
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Hi Defiler2k,
It seems like we two are having same chip with similar cooling solution.
Would you mind share the temperature of your after 1 hour of small FTT stress by using prime95 v28.1?

My last comments might mislead you in some way.
I was under the impression that the water goes out from CPU outlet should have higher temperature so when you touching the fitting or block, your hand should feel bit warmlish.
But it seems it is not the case to me, as my hand can only sense te tiny heat in the air maybe from CPU block or somewhere around that area, block it self is similar to cold (same as my vid card block) frown.gif

Here is some general info about my cooling solution:
480 x 2 with push pull, 240 with push pull, d5 pump with dual top, water flow rate is around 5.4-5.6L/m
Fans are typhoons, running @ 1700 ish RPM

Ambient temp was about 24 degree, CPU oc'ed @4.6G vcore 1,2v (requires more than this when prime95 instead of AIDA64 FPU)

Please let me know your temperature, full cooling solution and your clock speed.

Cheers:thumb:
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Hi Defiler2k,
It seems like we two are having same chip with similar cooling solution.
Would you mind share the temperature of your after 1 hour of small FTT stress by using prime95 v28.1?

My last comments might mislead you in some way.
I was under the impression that the water goes out from CPU outlet should have higher temperature so when you touching the fitting or block, your hand should feel bit warmlish.
But it seems it is not the case to me, as my hand can only sense te tiny heat in the air maybe from CPU block or somewhere around that area, block it self is similar to cold (same as my vid card block) frown.gif

Here is some general info about my cooling solution:
480 x 2 with push pull, 240 with push pull, d5 pump with dual top, water flow rate is around 5.4-5.6L/m
Fans are typhoons, running @ 1700 ish RPM

Ambient temp was about 24 degree, CPU oc'ed @4.6G vcore 1,2v (requires more than this when prime95 instead of AIDA64 FPU)

Please let me know your temperature, full cooling solution and your clock speed.

Cheers:thumb:

We have a similar setup I think

I have 2 EK PE 480 with push pull a PMW D5 at mid range for the flow rate. Im using Cougar Vortex fans at around 35% through a Lamptron FC Touch controller. My block is the Supremacy with the naked ivy kit and MX-4 for thermal paste. Im using primochill rigid tubing.

I'm swapping vid cards and Im waiting for the blocks but my benches when I was running my dual GTX770's were as follows.

IBT Extreme = 66C @4.8GHz w 1.35v
Prime 4hr run Blend = 62C @4.8GHz w 1.35v
IBT Extreme = 62C @4.7GHz w 1.25v
Prime 4hr run Blend = 58C @4.7GHz w 1.25v
Idle on both 22C

Ambient ~21 Coolant Temps ~21 On load the coolant temps are about 29 tops for CPU only, if I run the GPU's they increase significantly.

I just got a new chip Im deliding today and tossing in the system tonight so I will run an hour of the small FTT on that and report back results. I ran a quick bench with the lid on with my 4.8GHz settings and I was at around 89C on IBT.

Honestly I'm a little disappointed with the supremacy and the naked Ivy kit as I was expecting better temps (yes I know my temps are good) however, I was getting very similar temps from a Raystorm and CLU between the die and IHS, so I was expecting much better performance going direct die instead of a difference of 1~3C but then again once you have an efficient loop an efficiency of 1~3C's is amazing. I wish I would have kept my Raystorm to test direct die on that and see if there was better performance there.
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We have a similar setup I think

I have 2 EK PE 480 with push pull a PMW D5 at mid range for the flow rate. Im using Cougar Vortex fans at around 35% through a Lamptron FC Touch controller. My block is the Supremacy with the naked ivy kit and MX-4 for thermal paste. Im using primochill rigid tubing.

I'm swapping vid cards and Im waiting for the blocks but my benches when I was running my dual GTX770's were as follows.

IBT Extreme = 66C @4.8GHz w 1.35v
Prime 4hr run Blend = 62C @4.8GHz w 1.35v
IBT Extreme = 62C @4.7GHz w 1.25v
Prime 4hr run Blend = 58C @4.7GHz w 1.25v
Idle on both 22C

Ambient ~21 Coolant Temps ~21 On load the coolant temps are about 29 tops for CPU only, if I run the GPU's they increase significantly.

I just got a new chip Im deliding today and tossing in the system tonight so I will run an hour of the small FTT on that and report back results. I ran a quick bench with the lid on with my 4.8GHz settings and I was at around 89C on IBT.

Honestly I'm a little disappointed with the supremacy and the naked Ivy kit as I was expecting better temps (yes I know my temps are good) however, I was getting very similar temps from a Raystorm and CLU between the die and IHS, so I was expecting much better performance going direct die instead of a difference of 1~3C but then again once you have an efficient loop an efficiency of 1~3C's is amazing. I wish I would have kept my Raystorm to test direct die on that and see if there was better performance there.

Have you ever tried stree the CPU before delid? I am really curies to see if my temperature is in "Normal" range.

Something really weird or I worried the most is, my deminerlised water will stay within 2 degree range comparing to my room temperature.
Is it suppose to be bit warmer?

Please ignore my 1.2v vcore for now as I need way more than that to stable it under prime95. It lead to even higher temperature running latest prime95 v28.1 (I have been told that could surpass the temp AIDA64 FPU can do). Either AIDA64 FPU or prime95 v28.1 small FFT will able to push my core temperature towards 90 degree while the ambient temperature is ~30 C.

Pumps are running at 4800 RMP(highest) and waterflow rate is 5.5L/m average. All fans are running at 100% speed, due to too many fans(non PWM) I have, I can't adjust them by using my lamprton FC5 V2.

Please let me know if my temperature is bad, as I think I should get at least 10 degree less temperature than where I am at the moment without delid.

Also your stable vcore, vring, vrin etc etc setup are more than welcome too.

Cheer mate and thank you for your input again
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I do had a look with this, but it is air cooled with 4.3Ghz OC hotwell chip wuth unknow ambient temperature where water should do better job than this?

Plus my ambient temp is about 25-6 room temp, water temp is about 1-2 degree higher than room temp (and this is what I really concerned about)

My highest temperature while 4.6g oc last check was 80 degree while FPU stressing.

Defiler2k was way way way lower than what I get and it is a ultimate temp I have been looking for with that OC clock speed too.

I almost delided my chip today...but I backed off -.- I was too ***** to knife it down (1st time water cool and too dangerous for me -.-)

What I have been seek about is for given condition my pc is, shall I get better temp than what I am getting before delid or it is the temperature I can get by giving ambient temp and the chip itself.

I will name my system as "HOTWELL"biggrin.gif and I will post it soon.

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