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Does anyone know if an AX 760 can handle two 280X's? Or will we just have to wait and see? And responses are welcome.

No, you will need to overclock the power supply, it's best done with water cooling.
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I know I'm in the minority here, but as a custom system builder that enjoys lengthy project builds, high-end components, and doesn't have the means to save money for a large project (If I don't spend my "allowance" money, my wife will), I like the fact, at least this go around, that my components haven't depreciated to half the value I paid for them.
Edited by Phelan - 10/3/13 at 12:34am
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post #33 of 52
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no. it might be if it was in the same gpu generation/series, but despite how bad this gpu cycle has been with pricing, people should not give up on the idea of getting more performance and/or better efficiency in new cards for the same price. by this newly accepted logic, performance on gpus will stop increasing within 2 years because the consumers are happy to pay the same money for the same performance year after year, new series after new series. we must all universally demand progress. I would say that we should accept nothing less than 7970 performance at $200-$250 with 7870 power consumption but that ship has sailed and advances like that which were commonplace before the HD7K/GTX600 series are few and far between now. frown.gif

Surely, you must be joking. There's no newly accepted logic that we want the same performance from new GPU's. There have always been people that demanded the highest performance possible and people who just settled for the mid-range every time to save money. Buying a 9600 GT or an HD 5770 is totally equivalent to picking up a GTX 760 or a 270X, all cards are mid-range cards in their own generation but have similar performance to the second-fastest card of the previous generation. We're also still maintaining the ~30% increase in performance for the top card every year that we've been getting since before I got interested in hardware. Nothing has really changed, this generation is just full of rebranded cards.

It is of course an issue that AMD and NVIDIA are rebranding their cards, because it means higher power consumption and more heat than we should have, but this has also gone on forever (see NVIDIA 8800 GT -> 9800 GT -> GTS 250). Next generation should bring about new mid-range cards for AMD, selling an HD 7970 rebrand as a low-end card would be unacceptable because of the power consumption so they'll be forced to make new cards.

TL;DR nothing's changed really.
Edited by B!0HaZard - 10/3/13 at 3:47am
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No, you will need to overclock the power supply, it's best done with water cooling.
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post #35 of 52
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No, you will need to overclock the power supply, it's best done with water cooling.

I'll make sure to keep that in mind. Will Tap-Water suffice as a sufficient coolant? tongue.gif
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Just so everyone knows, Tahiti LE was a limited-run chip meant to clear out stocks of a specific ASIC. The only reason why you still see some cards with it is simple: the initial allocation still hasn't sold out.

You won't see it coming back.
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Now to actually see if these bios updated cards perform better than the 7970 and 7950 at the same clocks. I've been itching to try some out.
    
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With this information can one of you fine OCNers guesstimate how the ~$200 R9-270x will compare to the current ~$200 HD7950? I just bought one and I can cancel the order If I need to.

I wouldn't cancel it.

I'd bet the performance margin (stock) would be about the same as Tahiti LE was with the 7950.
That said even with OCing made into a factor, I'd rather have the 3GB of VRAM and 384-bit bus.
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Probably going for a 270X in February, if not earlier. Any info on when some companies might fit one of those with fancier cooling?(ASUS DirectCU II, Sapphire Vapor-X or something like that). Would like a bit of extra OC potential for not too much more money. smile.gif
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Probably going for a 270X in February, if not earlier. Any info on when some companies might fit one of those with fancier cooling?(ASUS DirectCU II, Sapphire Vapor-X or something like that). Would like a bit of extra OC potential for not too much more money. smile.gif

http://wccftech.com/entire-amd-radeon-r9-280x-radeon-r9-270x-radeon-r7-custom-gpu-lineup-asus-msi-sapphire-powercolor-unveiled/


I don't know if in Estonia the HD7950 is cheap but over in the USA the HD7950 is running the same price as the R9-270X is supposed to launch

This makes the R9-270X a bad deal since it comes with 2GB VRAM and 256-bit memory bus and less Firestrike score (~5500) means we can infer it is a weaker card
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