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About €180-ish.
Here's the thing. I really see two options here.
1.If you go with the 9590, you'd be paying €70 more for a higher clocked 8350. Personally, that is not an ideal purchase any which way you look at it. With the appropriate cooling, you could boost a 8350 to or almost at 9590 levels. The 8350 is a fantastic price/performance cpu.
2. If you go with a 4770k, you pay a higher cost compared to the 8350. It really depends if the extra performance is worth the ~€140 premium over the 8350. Some say yes, some say no.
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Here's the thing. I really see two options here.
1.If you go with the 9590, you'd be paying €70 more for a higher clocked 8350. Personally, that is not an ideal purchase any which way you look at it. With the appropriate cooling, you could boost a 8350 to or almost at 9590 levels. The 8350 is a fantastic price/performance cpu.
2. If you go with a 4770k, you pay a higher cost compared to the 8350. It really depends if the extra performance is worth the ~€140 premium over the 8350. Some say yes, some say no.
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Ah yes, but here is what OP has to consider.

*All prices are off top of my head* Also P = pounds
The 9590 REQUIRES a high end cooler such as a Corsair H100, yes the H80 isnt good enough from what I've heard. So add about 110P to its pricetag, making it 360P, plus the fact that you also need a high end board ie: AsRock Extreme 9, which lets say is 200P. Your total for the AMD rig is 560P.
The 4770k is 320P. Take a decent cooler ie: Zigmatek Dark Night for about 45P to get it as fast as the 9590 and only requires a decent board such as an AsRock Extreme 4 for about 180P. Your total for the intel rig is about 550P.
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It completely depends on what you plan to use the computer for. Personally for general purpose and gaming you are probably best going with either the i5-4570 or i7-4770, but if the budget is firmly fixed you can buy the 8350 and have more than enough CPU power for modern gaming and general use computing.
Then put your extra money into the new AMD gpu's dropping tomorrow. If I hadn't just bought a used 7970 recently I would be heavily tempted to buy one myself. The GPU is where Mantle is most likely going to make the most impact.
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Ah yes, but here is what OP has to consider.

*All prices are off top of my head* Also P = pounds
The 9590 REQUIRES a high end cooler such as a Corsair H100, yes the H80 isnt good enough from what I've heard. So add about 110P to its pricetag, making it 360P, plus the fact that you also need a high end board ie: AsRock Extreme 9, which lets say is 200P. Your total for the AMD rig is 560P.
The 4770k is 320P. Take a decent cooler ie: Zigmatek Dark Night for about 45P to get it as fast as the 9590 and only requires a decent board such as an AsRock Extreme 4 for about 180P. Your total for the intel rig is about 550P.
Agreed. But as I said, if he'd rather be strict on his budget, the 8350 would be the best bang for the buck. The 9590 is simply a horrible purchase, in my opinion. Slightly off topic, but wasn't there some concerns over the 9590 actually ruining motherboards because of the power draw? I could be wrong though...
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How much is a 9370? Those saying that you're paying 70 moneys extra for an overclock are also telling you pay around 30-40 moneys extra for an overclock (from the 8320 to 8350). Now, I think technically all of the FX-x3x0 CPUs are 8350s, but 8320s heated up more or 6300s had a faulty module or core during testing and the FX-9000s are just better 8350s. If you're willing to spend that much money, spend a bit more and go Intel. If you don't want to spend that much, then a 9370 might be a happy medium of overclockability and price, assuming you get a good motherboard to use with it. Bulldozer or Piledriver at 5GHz needs a lot of power in comparison to Intel. Unless you absolutely need eight physical cores, Intel will almost always be better if you're going to spend over $350-400 USD for a CPU/motherboard combo (as of 2013), which is probably around 300-350 Euros for you. And if you do need them and don't have a budget, then get dual Xeons. 'Cause why not.
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Go with the 8350, skip the 8320. Ive run both and overclocked both and the 8350 is easily worth the extra money. It overclocks very well. With an H100 i can easily break 5 ghz. My 24/7 is 4.8mhz. That the number I found that gives me plenty of horsepower and keeps the power draw realistic and everything nice and cool. It will go significantly higher. If you want to go AMD there is no reason not to. You get everything you need out of it. Someone mentioned the board needing to be able to handle the extra juice for 9300s and higher clocks on the 8350s and thats true, make sure the board can handle the power requirements of the 9300s. A lot of them can not.
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Hi buddy, I see your in Ireland? Have you no relatives or friends up 'north'? You can buy stuff from the big shops in England and some are free delivery eg 'DABs' , I've used ebuyer and novatech in the past and its a massive saving for me. eg I live in Belfast, to buy over the counter a hd 7790 is £150 from the only place I've seen it, maplin, from Dabs its £95 at my door in a few days. My last buy was from ebuyer, an a8-5600k + asrock fm2a55 + 4gb crucial ballistix 1866mhz and it all was £155 at my door within 5 days. Went out one day in the day in the car a few days before armed with near £200 before this purchase and couldnt even find these parts on a shelf, one shop actually tried to palm me off with a 'much better' pentium g20** or something for £90 alone lol
An fx 8320 fwiw could be at my door for £124
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Agreed. But as I said, if he'd rather be strict on his budget, the 8350 would be the best bang for the buck. The 9590 is simply a horrible purchase, in my opinion. Slightly off topic, but wasn't there some concerns over the 9590 actually ruining motherboards because of the power draw? I could be wrong though...
Yes, also the fact that the 9590 is just simply a binned 8350 means you can just go buy an 8350 and get 4.9-5.1GHz with the same cooler as the 9590. Such a stupid product.
Yes the 9590 was ruining motherboards. The power draw on them is insane and people would go, "Duurrrr im not overclocking so I can just grab a cheap motherboard, hurr durrrr", so basically, to my knowledge, anything that isnt a mid-grade or higher 990FX board will just simply toast over the coarse of about 2-3 months due to overloading the VRM's and such parts.
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