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i dont like gigabyte boards and they have terrible RMA process
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i dont like gigabyte boards and they have terrible RMA process

Good knowing that, as I'm going buy it as a foreign it must have a awsome RMA...

@Thread:

To help you help me ( biggrin.gif ), I'll say what are the motherboards that I'm liking, so you can tell me which one is the best choice. I'm sorry for my delay to answer your replies sadsmiley.gif

-ASUS MAXIMUS VI HERO

-GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-UD3H

-GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-OC

REMEMBER: I want it to gaming and do, at least, a 4.8Ghz overclock, which MUST be solid and very much reliable. Maybe I'll use 2 GPUs, nothing more.
Edited by Lucas Bezerra - 10/23/13 at 5:22am
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i dont like gigabyte boards and they have terrible RMA process

Varies by region. Their RMA is generally good in the USA.
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Good knowing that, as I'm going buy it as a foreign it must have a awsome RMA...

Most manufacturers will require you to have address in the country where the product was bought for RMAs. There was a thread recently about that, and I only recall EVGA that would accept international RMAs.

For what you listed in OP, my go to board for Z87, Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H, is more than enough. There are alternatives like a bit more expensive GD65 or cheaper Extreme4, 6 in that price segment. Asus generally offers less until you get to Pro boards or Maximus Hero.
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Varies by region. Their RMA is generally good in the USA.
Most manufacturers will require you to have address in the country where the product was bought for RMAs. There was a thread recently about that, and I only recall EVGA that would accept international RMAs.

For what you listed in OP, my go to board for Z87, Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H, is more than enough. There are alternatives like a bit more expensive GD65 or cheaper Extreme4, 6 in that price segment. Asus generally offers less until you get to Pro boards or Maximus Hero.

And how reliable would be this motherboard? I mean, what would be the chance of damaging a linked above motherboard or this Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H you have recommended with a good power supply and a 5Ghz overclock? I need it for, at least, 3 years redface.gif
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Well, you probably have almost zero chance of finding Haswell CPU that will do 5GHz with normal cooling. But if you do, UD3H is more than capable.

It's hard to predict failure rate, but these boards use very good components.
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Well, you probably have almost zero chance of finding Haswell CPU that will do 5GHz with normal cooling. But if you do, UD3H is more than capable.

It's hard to predict failure rate, but these boards use very good components.

Because you said the Gigabyte is ok, I added the models I liked of this brand at the first post. I know you like the UDH3, but can you tell me the pros and cons of those motherboards?
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Well the only known limitations of these GB boards to me is linked fan control. Like some of the fan headers are tied together, and I believe 1 of them doesn't have any software control at all. As far as pros go, then have very solid VRM. UD3H uses the same quality components like GA-Z87X-OC or Asus Maximus boards use besides inferior chocks. UD4H is the exactly the same as UD3H, but offers red color scheme and phase doubling from 8 to 16. Their boards also have headphone amplifier (better than ASRock, but worse than MSI). Asus doesn't use amps on non-Maximus boards. And as always Ultra Durable boards build very well.

You can read an awesome VRM article by forum member Sin0822 over here.

BTW MSI Z87-GD65 is also a good board, and MSI promises complete fan control over all fan headers. However, one thing I've heard is that Killer NICs that they use can cause some issues.

As far Asus boards go, I only like Hero and WS boards for this generation. I consider Hero to be very well priced although it offers slightly less features for a bit higher price than the others, it's still a solid board. And WS is the cheapest 4-way SLI board available, and they're usually very stable.
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Well the only known limitations of these GB boards to me is linked fan control. Like some of the fan headers are tied together, and I believe 1 of them doesn't have any software control at all. As far as pros go, then have very solid VRM. UD3H uses the same quality components like GA-Z87X-OC or Asus Maximus boards use besides inferior chocks. UD4H is the exactly the same as UD3H, but offers red color scheme and phase doubling from 8 to 16. Their boards also have headphone amplifier (better than ASRock, but worse than MSI). Asus doesn't use amps on non-Maximus boards. And as always Ultra Durable boards build very well.

You can read an awesome VRM article by forum member Sin0822 over here.

BTW MSI Z87-GD65 is also a good board, and MSI promises complete fan control over all fan headers. However, one thing I've heard is that Killer NICs that they use can cause some issues.

As far Asus boards go, I only like Hero and WS boards for this generation. I consider Hero to be very well priced although it offers slightly less features for a bit higher price than the others, it's still a solid board. And WS is the cheapest 4-way SLI board available, and they're usually very stable.


What a big article! I'll fully read it tomorrow because now I'm going sleep... But, by what I've seen, the VRMs and those components showed there are the center of power control of the motherboard, will just take a better look at it tomorrow. I'm guessing you have a solid choice on the UD3H, it must be that good. I know I've been a little boring guy, but I'm just trying to find the best way to expense my money biggrin.gif . So, can you tell me if those Gigabyte gaming motherboards, like the G1 M5, have all the building quality and features offered on the UD3H or Z87X OC for overclock and reliability? I'm seriously trying to find what's the point of that "pro-gamer" boards that makes them so expensive if the game is made mostly by the CPU + GPU. And can you tell me the real world difference between the UD3H and the Z87X OC? About the UD4H/UD5H, I've also take a look in some threads and the UD3H is really the way to go, because there is not any big quality or feature on the UD4H/UD5H that would worth that price increase.
Edited by Lucas Bezerra - 10/9/13 at 6:01pm
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I just ordered the Asus Hero on Sunday cant wait to get home and drool!! lol
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So, can you tell me if those Gigabyte gaming motherboards, like the G1 M5, have all the building quality and features offered on the UD3H or Z87X OC for overclock and reliability?

I'm seriously trying to find what's the point of that "pro-gamer" boards that makes them so expensive if the game is made mostly by the CPU + GPU. About the UD4H/UD5H, I've also take a look in some threads and the UD3H is the way to go, because there is not any big quality or feature on the UD4H/UD5H that would worth that price increase.

Yea, they use the same components. Some of the non-OC boards in Gigabyte's line up like regular UD or Sniper boards have less OC specific features like OC ignition (turning the power on the board but keeping CPU, memory disabled), and few software tweaking options in BIOS are missing.

Sniper boards add better sound, and Killer NIC. Those are all gaming features that manufacturers can add at this point. So Asus, MSI gaming boards do the same. MSI for this generation basically marked all good boards as gaming boards. Their regular line up consists of very basic boards, and they also have MPower for overclocking enthusiasts. Asus "gold" boards usually use the same components as Maximus boards except they miss gimmicky stuff. For this generation they also use slightly less efficient MOSFETs, worse caps, and chocks, but they have more phases on their higher end "gold" boards like Pro, so they kind of even out on that.

However, the reason I think UD3H is the way to go is because it's cheaper than alternatives from Asus or MSI and offers all one would need in a board like OC potential, and general feature set. There are even cheaper boards that don't skim much on components either like Biostar boards, or ASRock ones like Extreme4. However, ASRock uses thin PCBs, and Biostar isn't very popular, so there is always lack of info on them.

As I mentioned UD4H is pretty much the same as UD3H besides color scheme. If you visit Gigabyte's Z87 owner club, you'll see UD4H is the most popular choice. It's not just color though biggrin.gif
, but the fact that it was going for $75 in Micro Center with CPU purchase. UD5H just offers extra SATA ports.

It's worth mentioning that currently MSI GD65 runs for the same price as UD3H, and it offers slightly better feature set.
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