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So I'm building a new PC, and I have a question regarding RAM/Motherboard compatibility.

It says that the G.SKILL Ripjaws X is compatible with 3rd generation core processors. And it says it's recommended for Intel i7 3770K and Intel i5 3570K CPUs.
Does this apply to ONLY these selected CPUs? I have a Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H motherboard that is LGA 1150. Would the Ripjaws X be compatible with my motherboard? Also-- the CPU I am ordering is an Intel i7 4770 Haswell 3.4Ghz processor. I'm assuming these specs with the RAM will be wicked fast.

So are these compatible specs?
If not-- any suggestions to any G.SKILL RAM that IS compatible?

Thanks
post #2 of 8
They're compatible, it's largely marketing stuff (works best with newest most expensive cpu! yay!) and to to say some older cpu's/sockets couldn't clock to 2400mhz ddr3 etc. Haswell is way better than ivy on the RAM side, ivy was probably just the best/newest when it was posted

While 2400 RAM is often pennies more than 1600 these days, i must question spending that much on a z87 board with a locked cpu. Even if you wanted a high end OC, it's doubtful you'd want anything more than the "little brother" of the ud3h, the z87x-d3h which can be significantly cheaper (or a similar, low priced alternative) but without CPU OC capability, you can cut a ton further on motherboard and save a lot of money if there are not specific features that you want from a certain board thumb.gif

Also, depending on your usage of the system, you may not benefit from going i5 to i7 (i7 is not "better", the main selling point is a feature called hyperthreading, which helps some in some cases, but in others, like many games, has no performance benefit)

If you're poking around for performance on stuff like fast RAM and i7 over i5 too, you might want a decent overclock on the CPU, regardless of choice
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They're compatible, it's largely marketing stuff (works best with newest most expensive cpu! yay!) and to to say some older cpu's/sockets couldn't clock to 2400mhz ddr3 etc. Haswell is way better than ivy on the RAM side, ivy was probably just the best/newest when it was posted

While 2400 RAM is often pennies more than 1600 these days, i must question spending that much on a z87 board with a locked cpu. Even if you wanted a high end OC, it's doubtful you'd want anything more than the "little brother" of the ud3h, the z87x-d3h which can be significantly cheaper (or a similar, low priced alternative) but without CPU OC capability, you can cut a ton further on motherboard and save a lot of money if there are not specific features that you want from a certain board thumb.gif

Thanks! Just wanted to make sure it was all compatible, lol. I haven't done too much OC'ing in my day, but I am building a new gaming rig, so I thought it'd be a good idea to buy some extreme OC material.

Here are my specs that I have listed in purchasing in a few weeks:

Case: Antec 1200 V3 Black Steel Full ATX Tower
PSU: Antec High Current 900W
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H LGA 1150
CPU: Intel i7 4770 Haswell 3.4GHz Processor
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X 16GB (4x4GB) 2400Mhz
GPU: EVGA GTX 780 3GB SuperClocked w/ ACX Cooling
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM HDD
CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro 100i Water Cooler
Optical Drive: ASUS 24X DVD Burner/48X CD Reader
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium (64bit)

...and thanks to PCPartPicker, Total Spending = $1,695.72


And one last thing -- What the difference between Windows 7 Home Premium "Full Package (64/32bit)" and the Windows 7 Home Premium "SP1 (OEM) 64bit"?
post #4 of 8
You still maybe want a z87x-d3h/equivelant but spending a bit on mobo is more understandable in such a build!

You need a 4770k, not 4770, to overclock. Also, for single GPU (high clock on 4770k) your maximum power consumption would be below 400 watts for entire system, unless you used voltage override stuff on the 780 to OC it high, then you might want a 600 or 650w psu to sit good on efficiency curve with simultaneous high CPU and GPU load. A 900w PSU, especially getting it in place of a lower wattage better PSU (i dont know advanced details on psu's, some people here do, but the bronze-silver-gold-plat rating can be a quick tell of basics) is not only overkill on the wattage but a worse choice for build quality and efficiency

I'm not sure on the windows
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You still maybe want a z87x-d3h/equivelant but spending a bit on mobo is more understandable in such a build!

You need a 4770k, not 4770, to overclock. Also, for single GPU (high clock on 4770k) your maximum power consumption would be below 400 watts for entire system, unless you used voltage override stuff on the 780 to OC it high, then you might want a 600 or 650w psu to sit good on efficiency curve with simultaneous high CPU and GPU load. A 900w PSU, especially getting it in place of a lower wattage better PSU (i dont know advanced details on psu's, some people here do, but the bronze-silver-gold-plat rating can be a quick tell of basics) is not only overkill on the wattage but a worse choice for build quality and efficiency

I'm not sure on the windows

How many watts would be recommended then? I don't wanna screw anything up using too much wattage.

And I didn't plan to really OC my GPU, I mean it's a SuperClocked GPU-- Don't think it's very necessary. But if OC'ing CPU is not possible at all with a 4770, then I guess it won't hurt me. I really don't need any OC'ing for it anyway, I think 3.4Ghz is quite enough for my system + the 2400Mhz of 16GB RAM.
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Ha, what can i say, it's just weird to spend so much if you're not pushing for performance. i7 doesn't help over i5 for most games, an expensive z87 board (relatively..) like the ud3h is pretty pointless unless it offers some features that you want over a cheaper board (like even a h87 - the reason to get z87 is usually cpu oc) RAM performance gains are also minimal, usually fast RAM is just the cherry on top of the icing on the cake for a nice CPU overclock

The card you're getting boosts to 1020mhz, from my understanding you should be able to hit somewhere in the 1150-1250 range without messing around too much with voltages etc; that's where a lot of the performance gain for a 780 over another card would be. It's not a bad setup, just seems like you could do a lot more, or save a lot of money if you're not pushing for performance in particular

A good ~500w unit would do fine with 4770k+780 unless you're doing extreme stuff with the GPU (OC after voltage unlock) maybe even less. I'm not expert on gk110 (780,titan)
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Ha, what can i say, it's just weird to spend so much if you're not pushing for performance. i7 doesn't help over i5 for most games, an expensive z87 board (relatively..) like the ud3h is pretty pointless unless it offers some features that you want over a cheaper board (like even a h87 - the reason to get z87 is usually cpu oc) RAM performance gains are also minimal, usually fast RAM is just the cherry on top of the icing on the cake for a nice CPU overclock

The card you're getting boosts to 1020mhz, from my understanding you should be able to hit somewhere in the 1150-1250 range without messing around too much with voltages etc; that's where a lot of the performance gain for a 780 over another card would be. It's not a bad setup, just seems like you could do a lot more, or save a lot of money if you're not pushing for performance in particular


Ah, I see your point. I mean, my main concerns on this build was achieving maximum FPS on demanding games (on ultra settings). But other than that, I am also doing a lot of other things (other than gaming) on my system that eat up a lot of CPU;mainly rendering projects on Sony Vegas (movies, videos, etc.)

I don't think I'd need a 4770K, do you? Any 3rd generation i7s I should consider? Or any i5 processors? I just need a good amount of performance (CPU-wise, and FPS-wise -- Which I'm okay with, right?)
I mean, I'd be down to OC if necessary too.
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Haswell i5 offers great performance already, i7 helps some (usually ~20%) in a lot of high-threaded tasks

Personally for killer system for gaming with some encoding on the side, i'd take 780 + i5 on a z87x-d3h, with CPU OC. You have to ask how much performance you want, what you're happy with, what you're willing to pay more for etc
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