Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric
Read what I posted again, I said for months all they had was GK104. Those other Kepler chips didn't come out until much later and they were all at the very bottom end. It would be like AMD having tried to sell a Barts as the 6970 or a Pitcairn as the 7970. I would rather have rebrands than entry level chips masquerading as a flagship.
Re your Edit - You are making that argument now, in October of 2013. AMD didn't try to release Pitcairn as the 7970 last year did they? Totally different and intellectually dishonest argument and you know it...
And initially all AMD had was Tahiti. Nvidia: 680 - Mar, 670 - May, 660 Ti - Aug, 660 - Sep. AMD: 7970 - Jan, 7950 - Later Jan, 7770 - Feb, 7870 - Mar. So yes, AMD revealed their product stack quicker, but the end result is the same. You keep getting wrapped around GK104 being in the GTX 680, but the product stacks (how many chips and how many cards from each chip) are the same for both manufacturers, and pretty much the same as previous generations.
And yes, I was being facetious about Hawaii, but it does check a lot of the same boxes as GK110. Larger Mem bus - Check, More VRAM- Check, More shaders - Check, Same process - Check, Many months later- Check, Different chip layout - Probably check (the 290X is probably not a straight scaled Tahiti just like GK110 is not a straight scaled GK104). So there are a lot of parallels there.