Originally Posted by badtaylorx
Unfortunately these prices have more to do with quantitative easing around the world than price /performance mark.
You are on the right track. Though I suspect it's mainly the energy crisis that is the real source, in basic Physics energy means Work and in basic Economics work means Wealth. In this case those cards (and the GK110) have a bigger die too so the manufacturing may be at least double the cost since they take more space on the wafer and they fail more often.
Originally Posted by Ha-Nocri
If it has 64 ROP's(latest rumor) and outperforms 780 why would AMD price it lower than 650$?
Because not even NVIDIA likes the $650 price. It is obvious from various indications that the sweet spot nowadays for the bulk of profits is around $400 products. It's simply not that desireable for a non-Professional to get $600+ cards for various reasons (they are children, they are on a budget, there is still a global crisis, the rich people are fewer) and in all likelihood the real situation is that those larger AMD dies (and GK110) are just higher cost to produce since they take more space on a wafer and they fail more often (even if they should be dropping in price over time and NVIDIA probably sticks to their original price, but they can't drop that much).
Originally Posted by 2010rig
How so? I've made no mention of performance, just that new cards will be out.
It's inevitable that these cards will drop in price. Quote me now, and check back later.
I understand you're buying a 290X, so don't let my opinion stop you from ordering one.
Don't be scared, overhype them. The performance of CPUs might not be that impressive because per-transistor the performance doesn't change that much but for the quantity of transistors they are confident it's around 190% that of 28nm. And GPUs nowadays are beasts of multiprocessing that unlike CPUs can "just use more cores".