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Well, I used to work for a CD manufacturer. Key word, "used" to. Nobody buying CD's or DVD's means there is no reason to produce the product. That means the companies are not making money, they lay off there employees and shut the doors. Thousands of people have lost there jobs in the disc manufacturing market and millions of dollars have not been made since these companies shut down do to lack of work. I know that Ipods, mp3 players, and other devices did make a large impact on the business, but when the mass majority can get something for free versus buying it, you know they will not buy it.
I remember the old days when friends and I would buy CD's from the mall every Friday (payday) night and rode around with cases full of CD's we had bought that had thousands of dollars invested.
So did pirating not have anything at all to do with this lose of business? rolleyes.gif

It's a shift in the times. We used to have Ford assembly lines full of people instating every piece of a Model T. Now we have robots that install everything, and a few people doing QA.
We also used to have slaves in the cotton fields picking tons of cotton. Now we have giant robots that eat the cotton.

I used to work at a video rental store. I was there at the end of an era, and I saw that switching business models could allow us to become a new centerpiece that was still related to movies, just not the renting of a physical media. The social norm shifts, so businesses need to know how to shift with it.

TBH, 2 out of the 125 people I know actually pirate anything. Everyone else I know is either to scared to do so, or just doesn't care and buys away.
Personally, I would have no problem if the Hollywood machine and the RIAA died tomorrow. The crap they spew out does nothing for our society. I believe in independent productions, and the likes of that.
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I did say in my post that I do realize that Ipods, mp3 players, and other technology made a large impact. I am also saying that pirating did make a impact also, since I personally do not know anyone that actually buys music anymore. I mean common, why buy it when you can pirate it for free? Save yourself thousands of dollars per year on music, movies, and books! Of course everyone is pirating everything they can for a freebee. That is human nature.
     
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make me think of this

http://youtu.be/GZadCj8O1-0
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It's not necessarily human nature, it's more of the entitlement generation deciding they deserve it. We live in a capitalist society - EVERYTHING costs something. How much do you think it costs to engineer an album suitable for release? I'm not entirely sure, but hiring the studio, the tech(s), equipment, then marketing etc. If everyone pirated then there would be no money flow to keep it going. It's us suckers that pay for it that make it happen, so be thankful to us rather than dismissive.

You're welcome.
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post #25 of 53
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make me think of this

http://youtu.be/GZadCj8O1-0
Entertaining! Of course Hollywood is going to blow things out of proportion and of course pirates are going to downplay these proportions. biggrin.gif
     
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It's not necessarily human nature, it's more of the entitlement generation deciding they deserve it. We live in a capitalist society - EVERYTHING costs something. How much do you think it costs to engineer an album suitable for release? I'm not entirely sure, but hiring the studio, the tech(s), equipment, then marketing etc. If everyone pirated then there would be no money flow to keep it going. It's us suckers that pay for it that make it happen, so be thankful to us rather than dismissive.

You're welcome.

OMG, I'm not alone! There are two people alive that believe the same thing!
*beware* one of us will be murdered by the NSA very soon!
(honestly, you hit the nail on the head, could not have been more simply said) thumb.gif
     
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Business is booming in the media industry, there is no denying that.
The reason why DVD, VHS, cd and video rental is going away is not because of piracy, but rather a change to a new media.
Amongst my friends no one is renting a movie or buying cd/dvd's anymore. Although all of us did before.
The reason? We got a new media called Internet and streaming services.
Like Netflix, Hulu, Spotify, iTunes, YouTube and sound cloud.
Why do I and many others choose this over traditional media formats? It's faster, bigger selection, cheaper, better choice of quality (as in how big the file is), easier to discover new and exciting artists rather than a big company choosing what's in. Best part? It's all legal and gives greater competition for all and this is good for the consumers.

Of course I feel sorry for the people loosing jobs, but if you choose to work in media/technology you are also smart enough to understand that times change, and people ALWAYS adopt new and better stuff.
Edited by go4life - 10/3/13 at 10:42pm
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Originally Posted by go4life View Post

Business is booming in the media industry, there is no denying that.
The reason why DVD, VHS, cd and video rental is going away is not because of piracy, but rather a change to a new media.
Amongst my friends no one is renting a movie or buying cd/dvd's anymore. Although all of us did before.
The reason? We got a new media called Internet and streaming services.
Like Netflix, Hulu, Spotify, iTunes, YouTube and sound cloud.
Why do I and many others choose this over traditional media formats? It's faster, bigger selection, cheaper, better choice of quality (as in how big the file is), easier to discover new and exciting artists rather than a big company choosing what's in. Best part? It's all legal and gives greater competition for all and this is good for the consumers.

Of course I feel sorry for the people loosing jobs, but if you choose to work in media/technology you are also smart enough to understand that times change, and people ALWAYS adopt new and better stuff.

Actually people claim the affordable medias are not worthy quality, they would rather pirate higher quality....
http://www.overclock.net/t/1364844/usnews-net-providers-begin-warning-of-illegal-downloads/130
As you can see here, none of the streaming services or legal ways to buy are good enough and the thread was cleaned and locked. People are always trying to get something for nothing and then justifying there need to get this for nothing. I needed this because it was not worth buying or the industry is not putting out anything worth buying, but I will download it for free because I would never pay money for it anyways. Or I was just going to sample it, then buy it later....rolleyes.gif
How come nobody samples the music on youtube to decide if they want to buy it? Nope, lets pirate, put it on the mp3 player, and listen to it driving until we get tired of it and delete it. It wasn't worth buying anyways, they suck. lol rolleyes.gif
     
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post #29 of 53
I tend to acquire games without monetary compensation very often. But if the game is great I will buy it no problem. Most of the the time I will save up to buy games etc if they are good. But when you have games that seemingly cost 10M to make (COD) and rake in the dough, it makes it hard for me to want to support that. I have morale's but I also have common sense. Paying 60$ for a game that I my get 20 hours out of? No thanks. Paying 30$ for a movie I may see 2x that has a thin concept and has been done many times before? No thanks. It's always been the same and always will be; people will pay for quality.
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business, but when the mass majority can get something for free versus buying it, you know they will not buy it.

This is true of everything though. Would you 'buy' medicine for your children if the country had no money and there was tyranny on the streets or would you smash the shop window and grab a load of pills?

People only buy things because there is rule of law, common decency turns out to be not that common. Sure there are a few people with values who wouldn't steal in similar scenarios ... they would starve and their children would suffer
Edited by Pip Boy - 10/3/13 at 11:32pm
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