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post #991 of 1004
Made a quick poll thread guys for your thoughts on the 290x here - http://www.overclock.net/t/1436726/poll-are-you-impressed-with-the-r9-290x/0_40

Multiple choice! wink.gif
post #992 of 1004
So who pre-ordered the $10,000 ASUS one from newegg.ca? lachen.gif

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Still out of stock -_-
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Anyone know what chips MSI, Gigabyte, & Asus are using?

I usually go with those brands for warranty in case I need to travel overseas.
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PowerColor 290X uses Hynix memory chips FYI
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PowerColor 290X uses Hynix memory chips FYI

From what I've read, it doesn't matter whether it's Elpida or Hynix. They supposedly both got it right this time.
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here is my theory:

AMD pulled out big talk about this card beating titan
In order to beat the titan, they clocked the hell out of this card, and yes, it ended up beating a titan.
As a result of the clocks, this card is running hot as the deepest depths of hell
They needed to get this card out before BF4 release- after all they had this card super promoted to be the perfect choice for BF4- if it wasn't out for BF4 everyone would laugh at AMD
They had it out for BF4, but ran out of time for a proper cooling solution. They had no choice but to release the card or be ridiculed by everyone, as well as they really did not want to compete head to head against the 780TI which releases mid november, so they release the card now.
Card runs hot as hell, so they strap a turbine engine to it as a makeshift fix to at least have this card even WORK when people get it. Realize they can't tame the beast of heat of this card - so they say 95 degrees is the prime operating temperature- (which i really do not believe. What does AMD have that makes this card operate perfectly and not degrade the chip at that temperature?Intel doesn't have it. Nvidia doesn't. If NVIDIA and intel can't make a chip operate at its prime with no chip degradation at 95 degrees AMD DEFINITELY cannot. Nvidia and intel are MILES ahead of AMD in terms of R/D.
So they released the card at the 95 degree load temperature and states "the chip was designed to be run at that temperature". Why would you design a chip around 95 degrees? it makes absolutely no sense. It lowers overclocking room, makes all other components run hotter, (obviously) requires a higher spinning, louder fan to keep it cool, and will make your room feel like a sauna.

But who knows, i could be completely wrong. Only time will tell if this card is meant to be run at 95 degrees. But this definitely smells fishy. just the fact that AMD never had a release date set in stone or any real NDA release means that the card isn't exactly working the way they want it.....

This is my theory. AMD originally designed this gpu, thinking that they would use 20nm technology. However, as everybody here knows, the development of 20nm technology is behind the schedule. If they could have used 20nm technology, the heat problem should have been much less issues than the real product. Since Nvidia managed to pull off GK110-based products with energy-efficient gpu architecture, AMD needed to do something to counter it right now. AMD couldn't afford to wait until late 2014. So they decided to produce gpus based on 28nm technology, using a modified version of gpu design originally intended for gpus based on 20nm technology. AMD managed to produce real products which has a performance capability comparable with Titan. However, they couldn't fix the heat issues as much as they wanted to do. I think that if 20nm technology would be available in early 2014 as originally planned, AMD wouldn't have released 290X. In fact AMD was saying that 7970 will stay the fastest gpu from AMD in 2013. They probably changed their mind due to the delay of 20nm technology development.
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This is my theory. AMD originally designed this gpu, thinking that they would use 20nm technology. However, as everybody here knows, the development of 20nm technology is behind the schedule. If they could have used 20nm technology, the heat problem should have been much less issues than the real product. Since Nvidia managed to pull off GK110-based products with energy-efficient gpu architecture, AMD needed to do something to counter it right now. AMD couldn't afford to wait until late 2014. So they decided to produce gpus based on 28nm technology, using a modified version of gpu design originally intended for gpus based on 20nm technology. AMD managed to produce real products which has a performance capability comparable with Titan. However, they couldn't fix the heat issues as much as they wanted to do. I think that if 20nm technology would be available in early 2014 as originally planned, AMD wouldn't have released 290X. In fact AMD was saying that 7970 will stay the fastest gpu from AMD in 2013. They probably changed their mind due to the delay of 20nm technology development.

Heat isnt the issue, with a better cooler it be silent.
20nm is late, still for my set up a 290 is plenty.
not even sure to upgrade as my 7970 still works just fine.
but the 290 will be so price valued hard to not get it
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The heat is no different than the GTX 480 Fermi type heat that clearly could handle it and still in some rigs to this day with Overclocks. It may not be someone's bag of tea but they could handle it. If it bothers a user stear clear. Let's remember the 290X isn't throttling back in steps is 13Mhz clocks like Kepler does when it hits 72C and then again in steps of 10C.

EDIT to add: I'm running this card at 1100 / 1300 gaming stable at 84C with a 70% fan speed which is no louder than my 680 was running 1222 MHz at 95% fan to keep it from going above 72C. I can't wait for AB to get some voltage control. I've got another 11C to play with till 95C at 70% fan. I'm going to be running at 1200 MHz and those clocks on air. When these go under water soon your going to see some good OC's.

Yes at 100% fan benching its loud. Luckily benches are short and I don't play benches every night. I'm not benching competively I'm gaming. smile.gif
     
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i am ready order 2 more ..
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