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Hello All,

I was introduced to Bionic thru a podcast titled PcPer and one of the hosts is a SETI enthusiast and I became interested. I recently updated the wife's desktop computer and installed Bionic and started doing SETI and have accumulated around 45000 points in the last month running 24/7.

Her specs are:
i3 4130 @ 3.4
Asus H87-Plus/CSM MB
8 gigs Crucial sport 1600 cl9
Samsung 840 Evo 250 gig
Seasonic 520 FL Platinum PS (leftover from another build, figured it might help with the power bill)
Corsair 350D case no Mods

She is a school (band) teacher and uses it for school work like word, excel, internet, etc.

I am curious if there are any simple tweaks that I could do to increase performance?
Bionic is currently using default settings.


Also, I am currently building my annual gaming / all purpose machine and it will consist of these parts:

i7 4770k ( stock at first, no OC)
Noctura NH-U12S Cooler
ASUS GRYHPON Z87 MB
16 gigs Crucial Ballistic Elite 1833 cl9
Samsung 840 500 gig
EVGA 780 Reference
Seasonic 660v2 Platinum PS
Corsair 350D windowed case with lots of mods
2 Noctura 140 fans
2 Noctura 120 fans

I am wondering what settings or projects ( some like AMD cards and some like NVIDIA?) to use with this machine.

I have read somewhere that I would need to use one core to feed the graphics card ?

I am no software guy so the simpler the better.

Thanks for looking and let me know how to join the team.
Edited by QuietGamer - 10/4/13 at 7:24pm
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i3 4130 @ 3.4 can run CPU projects:
* Rosetta@Home , SIMAP , Docking@Home, Asteroids@Home, Cosmology@home , eOn, Leiden Classical, LHC@Home , ABC@Home, NFS@home, Numberfields@Home, SAT@home, etc.
* CPU (have CPU/AMD GPU) project: POEM@Home , Milkyway@Home (has multithreaded CPU workunits)

For your main machine you can run CPU and GPU projects
i7 4770k w/ GTX 780
* CPU also have GPU: , Einstein@Home, SETI@Home , Collatz conjecture , Primegrid , World Community Grid, Distrgen (not recommended on Nvidia GPUs due to much worse performance compared to AMD HD5000/HD6000 series or GCN based cards)
* Nvidia-only GPU projects: GPUGrid,Ibercivis


To join the OCN team you just go to the project page and hit join OCN on the right side of the preferences where it says "Community".

The tweaks depend on the project you run.

If you mean increasing performance for her applications, you can have it use only 1 core or less CPU time and memory when the PC is in use, by going to the preferences.

The one core to feed GPU is mainly for POEM@Home, Einstein@Home.
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I have just been having her suspend Bionic when she is using her computer. I was just curious about when it is running Bionic alone.

Thanks for the info.

I see I have alot to learn!
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There's also tweaks depending on project for the number of Work units (WU for short) that you can run on a GPU concurrently (at once)

Each project has different RAM /VRAM requirements and sometimes projects are optimized for specific hardware.

Milkyway is something I would not run on Nvidia GPUs since it is relying on double precision.

PrimeGrid is something you probably would run on a Nvidia GPU if your main goal is points.

Some projects are finnicky in that you need app_info.xml or app_config.xml

Discounting any application bias and assuming the project using single precision floating point, a GTX 780 (http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/1701/geforce-gtx-780.html) is about 4 Teraflops compute, which is about the same a a HD7970GE (http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/365/radeon-hd-7970-ghz-edition.html)

Overclocking the core will change the compute performance more or less by the same percentage. A GTX TITAN pushing 1 Ghz Boost will exceed 5 Tflops , R9-290X is known to push 5Tflops at unknown clocks according to their GPU'14 conference.
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I have just been having her suspend Bionic when she is using her computer. I was just curious about when it is running Bionic alone.

Thanks for the info.

I see I have alot to learn!

Welcome to the team. thumb.gif

You probably don't need to suspend BOINC while running Excel, Word, browser, etc. I leave BOINC running while running all of those programs, and i do not notice a performance hit. The only exception to this would be that some GPU projects will make a browser lag.

The only time that I suspend BOINC, on my main computer, is when I will be running a program that is more CPU/GPU intensive like ArchiCad, AutoCad, Maxwell, or a game.
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Great to have ya on the team smile.gif
Nice hardware dude, you came to the right place, we have heaps of people in the know that can help out
We also have a once a month event called BOINCers Gone Bonkers where we crank up all that we have in an effort to boost the team credit
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Here is a list of BOINC Projects available if you were wanting to branch off from SETI. Read the projects find something that sounds good to you and take a crack at it. Dont hesitate to ask questions.

Each project gives its own value for the work you do so dont be surprised if you spent 45 minutes on a wu and only get 1k pts.

I would have to agree with AlphaC
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i3 4130 @ 3.4 can run CPU projects:
* Rosetta@Home , SIMAP , Docking@Home, Asteroids@Home, Cosmology@home , eOn, Leiden Classical, LHC@Home , ABC@Home, NFS@home, Numberfields@Home, SAT@home, etc.

Although Id add FightingMalaria@home in the mix, you can set up to get short wu times and make decent ppd

Once you get your rig up I would say Collatz and PrimeGrid are the most popular for nvidia.


Bunch of guides and other essential info you might be interested in

CLICK HERE
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http://www.overclock.net/t/767754/guide-listing-of-projects-for-specific-hardware-gpu-android-multithread-etc

is another good one tongue.gif

Even if Primegrid may be more points-wise I think GPUGrid is far more useful to society.
http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=2507
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Asteroids is giving pretty good PPD after September, I think they changed the SSE3 extensions or something of that nature.

http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/forum_thread.php?id=169
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So fast! Down to 22 minutes on my 3570K.
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Twice faster again.
Still 120 credits per unit?

I'm not really in it for the points, I just use BOINC to make use of unused cores, almost everything I run is single threaded... tongue.gif
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Thanks for all of the input and advice. I hope to get some desk time soon. Busy , busy.....
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