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First i hated W8 but now i like it more than W7.
My biggest complaint is still that too much of the UI is hidden. I would actually like a visible start button that takes you to the metro screen. And the charms menu should just be completely removed or be integrated into the metro UI, it's annoying when you want to click close and then the menu moves before the close button because you moved your mouse too much to the right.

I'm running the 8.1 Preview, these are both fixed smile.gif

Personally, I was open minded and decided to try windows 8 since I was eligible for the $15 upgrade and have loved it ever since. Owning a desktop computer and a surface pro, it's nice to have a unified interface across devices. The "touch" features on the desktop don't seem counter intuitive to me at all with my usage habits. I have my most commonly used apps pinned to the taskbar and the rest as tiles on the start screen. For anything less common, all I have to do is press start and start typing to search for it. The new task manager is excellent, native ISO mounting is a long awaited feature and even being able to pause file copies is another excellent innovation I would find it hard to go back from. The only issue I've had is waiting for some drivers to catch up, although this is to be expected when running a preview OS. There have also been a few instances where I haven't been able to enable both my monitors and SLI at the same time (although nvidia's latest beta driver is working well).

Overall, I quite enjoy using windows 8 and actually do tend to cringe a little when forced to use an older version on another computer.
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Windows 8 can not be secured. The nature of the product is simply to open to outside intrusion for anything useful for me. Microsoft has too much access to windows 8. Microsoft has access so does the NSA.
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\and if you've never used a start menu, then you've never really used windows 7, or xp, or 2000, and the beat goes on


No.. it's true.. you rarely use a start menu/button. Most of your most used programs are either pinned or on your desktop.
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No.. it's true.. you rarely use a start menu/button. Most of your most used programs are either pinned or on your desktop.

OR if you're even more advanced you use Window Key+R and type the name of the program.
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No.. it's true.. you rarely use a start menu/button. Most of your most used programs are either pinned or on your desktop.

I don't like wasting space on my taskbar, I'd rather have it filled with open programs than the various ones I semi-commonly use but don't leave open all the time...and going to the desktop is far slower than opening the start menu. So no, surprisingly (Cough) your method of using your PC isn't universal.
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I don't like wasting space on my taskbar, I'd rather have it filled with open programs than the various ones I semi-commonly use but don't leave open all the time...and going to the desktop is far slower than opening the start menu. So no, surprisingly (Cough) your method of using your PC isn't universal.


If a Program is pinned it doesn't take up any other space when opened. You can group windows as well. You would be hardpressed to fill up the taskbar unless your monitor is tiny.
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I love windows 8. I didn't like it much when I first tried it out, but after a day or two I installed startisback, and haven't had to see that stupid metro screen since. Boots straight into desktop mode. I have a start menu that is pretty much exactly like windows 7, etc.

There are quite a few small quality of life improvements as well over 7. It also runs Battlefield 4 smooth as silk and with around 20FPS more than the same machine on windows 7 tongue.gif
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If a Program is pinned it doesn't take up any other space when opened. You can group windows as well. You would be hardpressed to fill up the taskbar unless your monitor is tiny.

..Really? Because foobar2000 is doing that just now. Unless you meant pinned to the Start Screen in which case..well, I'll pin it to my Start Menu and gain jump lists and a less cluttered interface.

You must not multi-task much, because I regularly fill my taskbar up with open programs...This is even with separate taskbars per screen too.
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Fact still stands, windows 8 is confusing to the peasant computer users. Having worked phone tech support with Windows 8 users it's awful when they mix up the mobile application and the desktop apps. They can't understand the difference between the two and it just makes everything a nightmare. Also getting them to navigate to certain areas of the computer can be extremely annoying. For instance, when walking someone through getting to a particular setting in Windows 7 I could always have them click the start menu "do you see the little search box at the bottom?" They type in a key word and bambo we are all good. In windows 8 don't even bother with them trying to click the bottom left of the screen to get to the start menu, you always have to stumble them through finding the windows key on their keyboard. Once you get to the start menu and you want them to search and you tell them to "just start typing blah blah" they always freak out and ask "WHERE DO I TYPE BLAH BLAH??", "JUST TYPE!!", "BUT WHERE!?!?!" Windows 8 is fine if you have computer intelligence. I guess we need to stop catering to those people on the wrong side of the digital divide.

/endrant
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..Really? Because foobar2000 is doing that just now. Unless you meant pinned to the Start Screen in which case..well, I'll pin it to my Start Menu and gain jump lists and a less cluttered interface.

You must not multi-task much, because I regularly fill my taskbar up with open programs...This is even with separate taskbars per screen too.

If you pin foobar to the taskbar in Windows 7/8 it only takes up that one spot. If you open 10 MPC videos they take up the 1 spot where you pinned it. You also have a jump list which is super handy.


To Pin a program right click the icon on the taskbar and select "pin program to taskbar"

I have 9 programs open and 4 Chrome Windows open and am only using 1/3 of the taskbar.

Also try hiding labels
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