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I just don't see a Titan Ultra coming to the GeForce line guys. I mean, why on earth would Nvidia sell a fully enabled GK110 as a Titan Ultra for $1k when they can sell it as a Quadro K6000 for $5k? Doesn't make any sense to me...

You oversimplify it. The Professional market is a whole different beast, they sell very few pieces for extreme prices and NVIDIA makes more from there than the gaming market, and it needs extensive support that goes beyond gamers' "you get a driver and a flimsy warranty and piss off". On the other hand, there are many indications the gaming market makes the bulk of its profit around the $400 budgets and that easily explains why they often try to compete with $250 and $400 pieces and they had to release the 780 at a minimum of $650 at the time of release, which ultimately points at what most users seem incapable to grasp while it hits them right on the head with a hammer, that GK110 is simply a bigger die that fails more often therefore it just costs at least twice to produce at TSMC.
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post #72 of 98
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I think this will happen only if they are replacing the 780/titan or updating them.
A 770 TI with more memory will replace the purchases of the 780 almost completely with a GPU almost as fast and enough memory to support 1440p easily.
So I don't really know how they can do that without making an overhaul of the top GPU list.

One of the options is scale up everything. 770 TI to get the 780 GPU, 780 to get the titan GPU, and a new 1K$ titan. That will make more sense (but if they don't scale up the price).

Do you think if they ever make a 790; that it will be with 3GB of VRAM? I mean NVidia a little more GPU's with >2GB of VRAM. And im not talking about the 4GB on the 256bus ones; im talking about like 384bit 3GB or what AMD is trying to do; 512bit with 4GB..... Why cant they make a card with that much VRAM ?

That... i will never understand about green team.
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Do you think if they ever make a 790; that it will be with 3GB of VRAM? I mean NVidia a little more GPU's with >2GB of VRAM. And im not talking about the 4GB on the 256bus ones; im talking about like 384bit 3GB or what AMD is trying to do; 512bit with 4GB..... Why cant they make a card with that much VRAM ?

That... i will never understand about green team.

We dont really use more then 2gb but 3gb max vram memory is expensive it keeps the cost down too
post #74 of 98
So more super premium cards that are only a marginal improvement over the card they replace. Oh how I miss the days when top of the line (single GPU) cards where priced in the mid 300's and where significantly faster then their predecessors.
    
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So more super premium cards that are only a marginal improvement over the card they replace. Oh how I miss the days when top of the line (single GPU) cards where priced in the mid 300's and where significantly faster then their predecessors.

A 7970 is significantly faster then a 6970 and is now $300... you just had to wait a while wink.gif
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post #76 of 98
Again there is only so much they can do and they pay a big premium for their oversized dies.

More importantly Hardforum just went black as in it redirects to some crappy hosting site.
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We dont really use more then 2gb but 3gb max vram memory is expensive it keeps the cost down too
next gen in games uses 2gb+ at 1080p+
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I don't see any logic here. Everything seems to indicate that the R9 290X from AMD is going to be marginally faster than the GTX780 (at best) and cost about $50-$80 more (~$699-$729). All indicators seem to point to Nvidia dropping the price of the GTX780, likely to $599 making it $100+ cheaper than the 290X and being only a fraction slower, making the GTX780 the more attractive purchase. Then if a Titan Ultra were to drop, I would imagine Titan would drop to $799-$849 and the Ultra would take its place at $999. So basically, Nvidia seem to be trying to price themselves INTO the market. I mean if the GTX780 is $100+ cheaper than the 290X and the Titan only $70-$100 more expensive and be notably faster, then who in their right mind would go for the 290X?

Sadly it seems that rather than stay price competitive, AMD are trying to match Nvidia at their own game and start charging premium prices which I can only see as bad news for AMD since Nvidia certainly have room to wriggle. But how quickly can AMD drop the price of the 290X? I doubt you would see a price drop in the first few months as its just not good PR, but at the same time if your competitor has an almost identical performing product for $100 LESS and a notable faster product for $70-$100 more then AMD will have to do something otherwise Nvidia may clean the floor and make this 290X launch a total bloodbath. I know the 290X will sell, because its a new flagship from AMD. But their pricing seems to be shooting themselves in the foot. They've gone too high with the $699 price (if true) and Newegg already had one listed for $729 which already makes it about $60 more than a GTX780 without the predicted forthcoming price cuts from Nvidia.

I honestly don't know what is happening with AMD at the moment. First they released that $799 FX-9590 waste of space that was about as fast as a $250 Intel for the most part, now they release their new flagship GPU at $699 (again, if true) which is only marginally faster than a competitors product that has been out for 6 months and already costs $50 less even without the price cut that is clearly going to come. The 290X should launch at $599 imo. If AMD go higher than that (which seems to be the case) then Nvidia are going to make their move and price the GTX780 and Titan in such a way that the 290X just doesn't make sense. Either way, this new trend of $700 falgship GPU's is a lose-lose for consumers.

Oh, please. This post is rather misleading- the best word I can give to it.
post #79 of 98
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A 7970 is significantly faster then a 6970 and is now $300... you just had to wait a while wink.gif

Well its not like there aren't (or where not) goods cards to chose from. I got my GTX 670 for a reasonable price. The thing that worries me is that there is not real replacements in sight for the 7970 and 680. Thous cards are soon going to be 2 years old and still we are waiting.

What Nvidia did with the TITAN and GTX 780 was essentially extend the current line rather then roll out a new generation if you get what I'm saying. Now it looks like AMD is planing on doing the same further solidifying the new higher price point of performance cards. Mean while for thous who prefer to stick in the sub 500 cards there is practically been no progress.
    
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post #80 of 98
770ti, 785 and titan ultra. those 3 cards would cover all the enthusiast sectors. they should make a 760ti too
Edited by pokerapar88 - 10/6/13 at 7:30am
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