Originally Posted by chinesekiwi
so what exactly are you going to do with those extra seconds of your life?
Let's weigh the cost / benefit here.....
It's like speeding an extra 10 mph to get to your destination a couple of minutes earlier while risking a far more severe crash.....
Quoted has higher end CPU, a SSD, and 16GB of RAM and complains about bloatness of AVs ...WHAT!?Actual preformance testing of AVs while doing other things as well....on a lower-medium range CPU and 4GB OF RAM.....
Ironically Avast and Nortons uses far less resources than MSE ('Summarized results', page 11)
drive-by malware. Good luck detecting that. Only a dumbass would create malware that is user detectable / noticeable (unless it's designed to do so like randomware).
There's a OCN'er who's a certified white hat hacker, I know a guy who has worked corporate IT security for 15+ years and I know a programmer who can easily (and has done so) created malware (for penetration testing purposes) and can bypass all AV engine virus signature detection if he wanted to. Yes, captchas and email verification is basically useless as well as he can bypass / workaround them as well (much fun to be had with say online competitions / online vote rigging lol).
Although like a chemistry teacher and 'certain drugs', he knows how to do it, he doesn't exploit it and only whips it out for fun like vote and competition rigging for the LOLS.
They've all said although consumer AVs are weak vs. very targeted attacks (i.e. if they really
want to target you), but they offer protection for a number of malware that you will not detect simply by 'common sense' or 'noticing'. Also they all said MSE is a total joke and mindnumbingly easy to bypass vs. other AVs.
mmm...whose opinions would I trust more and hold in higher regard more eh? Them or you.....
And why do people hold onto outdated beliefs..
Malware evolves so you cannot hold onto old opinions and myths like:All outdated
* Norton is crap / slow. [Uses FAR less resources than MSE now ha!]
* I don't visit 'dodgy sites' so I'm safe.
* Apple / OSX / Linux gets no viruses.
* The best is MSE / NOD32 / AVG.
* 'Common sense' is all I need.
* AVs slow down the system / too resource hogging (even more laughable on this site with gamer / high end rigs)
Links via Facebook ads / referrals are far more dangerous than links from 'dodgy sites'.
Also it is mindnumbing if you don't have mobile AV protection and password and anti-thief protection for your smartphone, particularly considering how much sensitive information is on your phone....
Facebook and Android, the two fastest growing targets for malware.
Android is much
easier to get infected apps on than iOS, due to the Apple store actually screening for app malware before it going on the App store unlike Android, where basically anything goes. Sure, Apple does it halfassed-ly via screening the code for about 30 seconds, but at least it's something vs. absolutely nothing
for Android / Google Play store.
Also really, don't use Acrobat Reader and for other Adobe products that really don't have a viable alternative to use e.g. good luck with Internet video without Flash player, keep them up to date as much as possible.
For Acrobat Reader, there's a lot of good alternatives so no excuses for that.