Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Software News › [HTG] Goodbye Microsoft Security Essentials: Microsoft Recommends You Use a Third-Party Antivirus
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[HTG] Goodbye Microsoft Security Essentials: Microsoft Recommends You Use a Third-Party Antivirus - Page 5

post #41 of 233
Chew on that MSE fanboys. I have always said it is pure crap and the very basic of anti virus protection. Though I never suggested anyone use it and use a real anti virus program.
post #42 of 233
Quote:
Originally Posted by frickfrock999 View Post

XnWoxXk.png

http://www.howtogeek.com/173291/goodbye-microsoft-security-essentials-microsoft-now-recommends-you-use-a-third-party-antivirus/
Quote:
The Microsoft Security Essentials website promises “comprehensive malware protection” and “award-winning protection,” so users would be forgiven for believing that Microsoft was committed to making MSE a capable antivirus solution. But Microsoft is now saying that MSE is only basic protection that users shouldn’t rely on.

In an interview with Dennis Protection Labs, Holly Stewart, the senior program manager of the Microsoft Malware Protection Center, said that Microsoft Security Essentials was just a “baseline” that’s designed to “always be on the bottom” of antivirus tests. She said Microsoft sees MSE as a first layer of protection and advises Windows users to use a third-party antivirus instead.

Man, I remember when MSE first came out.

It was lightweight, incredible, and loved by all.

And then... the downward spiral began. frown.gif


Not the best speech about it really. You can't have "MSE as a first layer of protection" unless you want a mess on your computer, you either use it as the sole realtime solution or you turn it off and use something else.

I never really liked it that much, Avast always seemed better, once in 2011 I tested it against MSE on a Pentium 4 running Windows XP and Avast used slightly less resources. I don't know how it is now, but in every system I am asked for recommendation on a free Antivirus it's Avast that gets installed and bar the obvious nagging (then again, it's free), it works perfectly even in modest systems.

Quote:
Originally Posted by frickfrock999 View Post

Oh yeah, isn't Avast the gold standard for free AVs now?
Is it lightweight like MSE?

Between Avast, AVG and Avira, it depends on the specific time frame you check, but Avast and AVG have bee doing well lately. Avira not so much in the last two tests.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Volvo View Post

As long as MSE keeps up the standards in the annual AV reviews I'll continue using this and MBAM.
It really is lightweight, easy to use and anti-annoying.

What standards ? As the article points out it already lost the certification once and has been sliding down since 2011, to the point of being placed last in the protection department in the last two tests.
Edited by tpi2007 - 10/5/13 at 11:20am
 
Metro 2033 review
Metro 2033
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7-3820 Asus Sabertooth X79 MSI GTX 750 Ti TF Gaming 16 GB Corsair DDR3 1866 Mhz Dominator 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung SSD 830 128GB + WD Caviar Black 1TB Sony Optiarc DVD-RW Corsair A70 + Noiseblocker M12-P Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
BenQ RL2455HM Cooler Master Octane Corsair AX750 Professional Modular 80 Plus Gold Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus 
Mouse
Cooler Master Octane 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Metro 2033 review
Metro 2033
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7-3820 Asus Sabertooth X79 MSI GTX 750 Ti TF Gaming 16 GB Corsair DDR3 1866 Mhz Dominator 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung SSD 830 128GB + WD Caviar Black 1TB Sony Optiarc DVD-RW Corsair A70 + Noiseblocker M12-P Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
BenQ RL2455HM Cooler Master Octane Corsair AX750 Professional Modular 80 Plus Gold Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus 
Mouse
Cooler Master Octane 
  hide details  
Reply
post #43 of 233
I don't think you guys realize how bad MSE is.

I don't know what the hell people have been reading, but it fails nearly every third party testing it's ever been on.

You want real AV protection, get something that actually works.

http://www.av-comparatives.org/

http://www.av-test.org/en/home/
Snowdevil
(16 items)
 
ASUS G750JM
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
[i7 4790K @ 4.4 GHz (1.186v)] [Asus Sabertooth Z97 Mark S] [nVidia Geforce GTX 1080] [nVidia Geforce GTX 1080] 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
[G.Skill 32GB DDR3 2133 MHz] [Crucial MX100 256GB] [Phanteks PH-TC12DX] [Win 10.1 Pro] 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
[LG 29UM65 (2560x1080)] [QNIX Evo II LED (2560x1440)] [WASD v2 Tenkeyless] [NZXT Hale90 v2 ] 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
[ThermalTake GT10 Snow Edition] [Razer Mamba - Chroma] [Razer Kabuto] [Razer Man O' War] 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4770HQ Intel HM87 Express Chipset Geforce GTX 860M 8GB DDR3L 1600 MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung SSD EVO DVD-RW Stock Windows 8.1 
Monitor
1920x1080 TN 
  hide details  
Reply
Snowdevil
(16 items)
 
ASUS G750JM
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
[i7 4790K @ 4.4 GHz (1.186v)] [Asus Sabertooth Z97 Mark S] [nVidia Geforce GTX 1080] [nVidia Geforce GTX 1080] 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
[G.Skill 32GB DDR3 2133 MHz] [Crucial MX100 256GB] [Phanteks PH-TC12DX] [Win 10.1 Pro] 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
[LG 29UM65 (2560x1080)] [QNIX Evo II LED (2560x1440)] [WASD v2 Tenkeyless] [NZXT Hale90 v2 ] 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
[ThermalTake GT10 Snow Edition] [Razer Mamba - Chroma] [Razer Kabuto] [Razer Man O' War] 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4770HQ Intel HM87 Express Chipset Geforce GTX 860M 8GB DDR3L 1600 MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung SSD EVO DVD-RW Stock Windows 8.1 
Monitor
1920x1080 TN 
  hide details  
Reply
post #44 of 233
Years of OCN antivirus threads with MSE as recommendations even with awful protection reports and now Microsoft themselves are saying that their product is a joke.

Will this finally stop the stupid?
post #45 of 233
Quote:
Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post

GTAIV when it's loading the splash screen also eats 49MB of RAM.

But wait. It's not actually doing ANYTHING.

you're absolutely right

but....




full system scan...

still lower than mspaint.
Gaming Rig
(15 items)
 
Sons Rig
(11 items)
 
File Server
(13 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i7 4790K ASUS Z97-WS Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
16 Gb's Mushkin DDR3 @ 1600 MHz Crucial M500 SSD 240gb Coolit ECO C240 Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorMonitorPowerCase
ASUS PB287Q 4K Monitor HTC Vive Coolermaster Silent Pro M 1000W Rosewill Blackhawk Ultra 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Razer Deathadder 2013 Steelseries Qck Mass Super Thick Cloth Mouse Pad Genius SW-G2.1 1250 4PC Gaming Speakers 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i7 3770k Asus P8Z68 Deluxe Galaxy Geforce GTX 780 Galaxy Geforce GTX 780 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
16 Gb's G.Skill DDR3 1866 Crucial M500 SSD 240Gb Coolit ECO C240 Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorPowerCase
Benq G2420HD Coolermaster Silent Pro 1000 Watt Deepcool Kendomen 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
Core i3 2120 Supermicro X9SCM-F 4 Gb Kingston 1600mhz DDR3 ECC 12 Segate 2tb drives (RAID 6) 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSPower
ADATA SP600 SSD 24 Toshiba DT01ACA200 drives (2 RAID 6's) Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit. OCZ ZT750 Supermicro PWS-665-PQ 
CaseOtherOtherOther
Norco 4020 and Norco 4224 LSI 9260-4i Raid Card Intel RES2SV240 20 port Expander. HP SAS 24 por... Voltaire 410Ex Hca Infiniband HBA 
  hide details  
Reply
Gaming Rig
(15 items)
 
Sons Rig
(11 items)
 
File Server
(13 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i7 4790K ASUS Z97-WS Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
16 Gb's Mushkin DDR3 @ 1600 MHz Crucial M500 SSD 240gb Coolit ECO C240 Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorMonitorPowerCase
ASUS PB287Q 4K Monitor HTC Vive Coolermaster Silent Pro M 1000W Rosewill Blackhawk Ultra 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Razer Deathadder 2013 Steelseries Qck Mass Super Thick Cloth Mouse Pad Genius SW-G2.1 1250 4PC Gaming Speakers 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i7 3770k Asus P8Z68 Deluxe Galaxy Geforce GTX 780 Galaxy Geforce GTX 780 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
16 Gb's G.Skill DDR3 1866 Crucial M500 SSD 240Gb Coolit ECO C240 Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorPowerCase
Benq G2420HD Coolermaster Silent Pro 1000 Watt Deepcool Kendomen 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
Core i3 2120 Supermicro X9SCM-F 4 Gb Kingston 1600mhz DDR3 ECC 12 Segate 2tb drives (RAID 6) 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSPower
ADATA SP600 SSD 24 Toshiba DT01ACA200 drives (2 RAID 6's) Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit. OCZ ZT750 Supermicro PWS-665-PQ 
CaseOtherOtherOther
Norco 4020 and Norco 4224 LSI 9260-4i Raid Card Intel RES2SV240 20 port Expander. HP SAS 24 por... Voltaire 410Ex Hca Infiniband HBA 
  hide details  
Reply
post #46 of 233
MSE combined with Malwarebytes has never let me down. Then again I've got the best antivirus of them all, Me.
 
x6 Folder
(7 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 3570k @ 4.8 w/ 1.31v watercooled Gigabyte z77x-UD3H Powercolor 290x w/ EK full cover G.Skill Ripjaws 2133mhz cl9 4x4gb 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
128gb Samsung 830 + Seagate 4tb, Seagate 1tb, W... DVD RW Rasa loop w/ RX120 and RS240 Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
2x 27" PCBANK 1440p, 1x 21" 1600x1200 Syncmaster Leopold 10keyless w/ red switches XFX 750w Black Edition CM Stacker 830 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech G5 SteelSeries QCK Fiio E10 USB DAC+AMP | ATH-M50 | JVC HARX700 
  hide details  
Reply
 
x6 Folder
(7 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 3570k @ 4.8 w/ 1.31v watercooled Gigabyte z77x-UD3H Powercolor 290x w/ EK full cover G.Skill Ripjaws 2133mhz cl9 4x4gb 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
128gb Samsung 830 + Seagate 4tb, Seagate 1tb, W... DVD RW Rasa loop w/ RX120 and RS240 Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
2x 27" PCBANK 1440p, 1x 21" 1600x1200 Syncmaster Leopold 10keyless w/ red switches XFX 750w Black Edition CM Stacker 830 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech G5 SteelSeries QCK Fiio E10 USB DAC+AMP | ATH-M50 | JVC HARX700 
  hide details  
Reply
post #47 of 233
Virus scanners are a rip-off since they never find any actual viruses. Oh wait maybe that because I don't illegally download, mess with warez, or click on suspicious links/shiny things.
post #48 of 233
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeerPowered View Post

Virus scanners are a rip-off since they never find any actual viruses. Oh wait maybe that because I don't illegally download, mess with warez, or click on suspicious links/shiny things.

How is that gonna help when an adserver has rogue publishers on it and hits you with a drive by attack on a site like the one you're on now?
post #49 of 233
Anything I download I always run through Virustotal.com. You really don't need a killer AV installed if your IQ is over 120 and you apply common sense when downloading/surfing/etc. Just sayin'... thumb.gif

I scan with MalwareBytes once a week, I just use the free version.
Edited by Sheyster - 10/5/13 at 12:29pm
EconoGamer#
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4790K 5 GHz (delidded) ASRock Z97 Extreme4 nVidia Titan Xp Team Xtreem 16GB/2400 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Corsair Force GT 120G SSD (OS) Crucial MX200 500G SSD (Games) Corsair H75 Hydro Cooler Windows 10 x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer Predator Z35 Corsair K95 RGB Platinum Corsair HX750 v2 80+ Gold Thermaltake Core X9 (M0dd3D!) 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G403 wireless XTrac Ripper XL (cloth) Realtek ALC1150 (on-board) Audio Technica ATH-MSR7 Headphones 
  hide details  
Reply
EconoGamer#
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4790K 5 GHz (delidded) ASRock Z97 Extreme4 nVidia Titan Xp Team Xtreem 16GB/2400 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Corsair Force GT 120G SSD (OS) Crucial MX200 500G SSD (Games) Corsair H75 Hydro Cooler Windows 10 x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer Predator Z35 Corsair K95 RGB Platinum Corsair HX750 v2 80+ Gold Thermaltake Core X9 (M0dd3D!) 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G403 wireless XTrac Ripper XL (cloth) Realtek ALC1150 (on-board) Audio Technica ATH-MSR7 Headphones 
  hide details  
Reply
post #50 of 233
Quote:
Originally Posted by felon View Post

How is that gonna help when an adserver has rogue publishers on it and hits you with a drive by attack on a site like the one you're on now?

Javascript, Flash, and Ads are blocked.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Software News
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Software News › [HTG] Goodbye Microsoft Security Essentials: Microsoft Recommends You Use a Third-Party Antivirus