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Historically? You have a very short memory. AMD couldn't compete with Fermi in compute.

Where the hell you got that?

Back in the days, the HD 5870 had nearly 33% better TFLOP speed than the Fermi's. Same story with the HD 6970 and the GTX 580. Hardware-wise, AMD had it going for them the entire time.

The difference came down to the software execution. nVidia managed to keep the peak TFLOPS they said their cards can generate consistently thanks to CUDA. AMD just had bragging rights but nothing to keep it sustained on their own, dedicated platform.

http://techreport.com/review/18682/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-graphics-processors
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I need a release date!
I will buy 2 of these.
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I'd like to see the 7970 come close to what this Tesla card will do in compute situations, lol.

A HD7970 completely destroys any nVidia GPU at Bitcoin mining, for what it's worth. tongue.gif (Something like ~600-800mHash/s vs 200)

That's not really fair though as even a HD5870 can beat/match a Tesla K20 at Bitcoin mining afaik. Once AMD gets better software going for their GPUs, I can see their cards being far better than they are now for compute though.
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Historically? You have a very short memory. AMD couldn't compete with Fermi in compute.

Due to software, iirc AMDs architectures tended to be better for compute but AMD hasn't had the software to really make use of it until fairly recently. Even the HD5870 had more FLOPs than the GTX 480, it just couldn't make use of them as well as the 480.
    
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Historically? You have a very short memory. AMD couldn't compete with Fermi in compute.

Where the hell you got that?

Back in the days, the HD 5870 had nearly 33% better TFLOP speed than the Fermi's. Same story with the HD 6970 and the GTX 580. Hardware-wise, AMD had it going for them the entire time.

The difference came down to the software execution. nVidia managed to keep the peak TFLOPS they said their cards can generate consistently thanks to CUDA. AMD just had bragging rights but nothing to keep it sustained on their own, dedicated platform.

http://techreport.com/review/18682/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-graphics-processors

I'm pretty sure he is comparing Firepro vs quadro. Actual workstation/compute cards, not general consumer cards. Completely different markets.

EDIT: Seriously guys, stop arguing. Some one correct me if I am wrong... but most of you are arguing over the wrong cards. They have completely different software/hardware to run the chips, effectively making any argument about non-quadro/firepro cards obsolete. When it comes to use of computational cards, Nvidia is used much more often in super-computing scenarios. (At least that I've seen. I'm not expert.)
Edited by Bridden - 10/5/13 at 4:24pm
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I'm pretty sure he is comparing Firepro vs quadro. Actual workstation/compute cards, not general consumer cards. Completely different markets.

Well hardware-wise, I stand my case but yeah a FirePro was crap compared to Quadros and it is all because AMD couldn't harness the TFLOPS into a suitable and usable application.
    
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I'm pretty sure he is comparing Firepro vs quadro. Actual workstation/compute cards, not general consumer cards. Completely different markets.

Well hardware-wise, I stand my case but yeah a FirePro was crap compared to Quadros and it is all because AMD couldn't harness the TFLOPS into a suitable and usable application.

Unfortunately having a huge engine isn't going to do you any good without tires. ^^ Hard-ware wise, maybe, but Quadro still took the cake. It's ok tho, AMD has been doing pretty well lately with driver/software support.
post #27 of 45
Just an unlocked GK110 nothing to see here
and why does it say GK180 there is no such thing they will most likely name it different.
Chances are same chip rather than a new chip.
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770 cut-price ?! I WISH
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hmm interesting if it overclocks well i might have to try one thumb.gif
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A HD7970 completely destroys any nVidia GPU at Bitcoin mining, for what it's worth. tongue.gif (Something like ~600-800mHash/s vs 200)

That's not really fair though as even a HD5870 can beat/match a Tesla K20 at Bitcoin mining afaik. Once AMD gets better software going for their GPUs, I can see their cards being far better than they are now for compute though.
Due to software, iirc AMDs architectures tended to be better for compute but AMD hasn't had the software to really make use of it until fairly recently. Even the HD5870 had more FLOPs than the GTX 480, it just couldn't make use of them as well as the 480.

Well that's only in mining. Which is not important for actual businesses.

I read a review some months back where they tested one of the newer FirePro's against Quadro/Tesla, AMD worked good in 4 out of 18 programs while Nvidia worked good in 12-14 out of 18. The others with not as much support Nvidia also did a lot better.
So even though AMD has good hardware, it does not matter until they get some better support in the usual business programs and overall better support.

In business this is the most important, does it work like it should or not? Theoretical performance is of none use.
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