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Originally Posted by Arm3nian View Post

Lol, how do you know that AMD has better for support for next gen. No one knows how their new cards perform, and no one even knows how mantle will perform. It is 100% speculation at this point.

What I said was fact. Most of the population can and will say Nvidia has had better drivers. I've owned both red and green cards from each gen starting from the radeon 4000 series up until now, and I can say while the difference is not huge, Nvidia has better drivers.

What you said has not been proved and WILL not be proven until actual users get their hands on these cards, and mantle comes out.

Guess I'm not part of the "most" that you are talking about so what you said is not "fact" for me.

I see as many "problems" with NVIDIA drivers and AMD drivers. And when I say problems they are easily fixed with a driver update or a lower of specs in a given games to "fix" the problem. I Was a long time AMD buyer just because of the price (price means everything to me). Purchased a couple of GTX 670's last year during black Friday and Boxing Day sales and I'm seeing just as many odd issues in games with these NVIDIA cards as my previous AMD cards. As far as I can see (ie. with my eyes) both are equal though when gaming. It really all depends on your bias from what I see on these forums. If your bias though is just what meets your needs and has the lowest price then I think that most will say that NVIDIA and AMD has drivers that are equal.

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post #32 of 86
is this even legal ?
post #33 of 86
How can this be legal? It's not ethical to say the least. I will be going AMD for my next build, I don't want to deal with a company that's so anti-competitive. As soon as I save up enough, I will be buying a radeon 290. I find the reason Origin gave highly dubious, I have had issues with Nvidia& AMD drivers on the PC, on Nvidia I would be constantly getting purple artifacts with my current graphics card if I played skyrim, and on AMD I used to have an issue where the resolution would randomly jump.
On a sidenote, did anybody else notice at the end of the article it was mentioned that Nvidia Maxwell is slated for a Q4 2014 release? That's half a years push back, another delayed product. Probably having 20nm yield issues at TSMC.
post #34 of 86
For the people asking if this is legal Intel did the exact same thing a couple of years ago, which helped make amd the sad shell it is today. Intel did have to pay fines when they were caught but by then the damage had already been done.
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post #35 of 86
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Nvidia has literally no answer until Q4/2014. Note that is not a typo, we did not mean Q4/2013, it is really over a year until they have a GK104 replacement.
Posting it here so Semiaccurate doesn't remove it later.
post #36 of 86
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Predicting product issues and accusing a company are two different things. Product issues and predictions can be generated with leaks while just jumping to assumptions on what a company has done and putting words in people's mouth is another.

I'll take more of your trust into charlie if you can prove he was the first to make predictions on the product. For now, I'll be a skeptic.

Feel free to be a skeptic of Charlie all you want, I take his articles on a case by case basis based around other reports and what else we hear about a story...In this case it's far more likely that nVidia is involved somehow simply from the timing, do you really think Origin would see all this massive, positive news surrounding AMD and their new cards (Mantle, 2xR9 290Xs running DiRT3 with 3x1 4K displays smoothly, more optimization in the vein of TWIMTBP, etc) and then announce that they're not using AMD cards over what is still under industry standard failure rates? As I posted in the other thread, the numbers provided by Puget systems mean that it's around a 100 card difference over 3 years assuming 6k cards (Not 5.6k as was the actual numbers) and even numbers of cards sold, we don't know the brands used nor the actual ratio of nVidia to AMD sold...The guy from Puget even said that the numbers weren't enough to raise any red flags, it's pretty clear that there's more to it than failure rates to anyone who bothers to actually look into it.
    
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post #37 of 86
Didn't Intel already do this to AMD?

The difference now is that they arguably have the upper hand, but still... deja vu.
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Yep, and they did it when the Athlon64 was king because their P4 couldn't compete.
    
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post #39 of 86
This editorial doesn't surprise me as business means business and keeping oneself alive is relevant = peoples jobs = peoples livelihood. Do what it takes to keep working attitude.

As consumers we shouldn't expect any less from either side as both AMD and Nvidia have proven themselves as big business. Nothing new here being brought to light. Knowing this doesn't change the fact we still make our own choices based on what they provide to us as end user and not what happens behind closed doors.

Wanting the best toy to play with doesn't scare enthusiasts from over paying for it. Wanting a brand new shiny toy just to try out before knowing what it can do doesn't scare a hobbyist. It takes all kinds of consumers from responsible to irresponsible, from prudent to frivolous. One thing in common is at the end of the day this news about Nvidia doesn't change how we feel with our subjective purchases we make. Our purchases are based on the end product provided for our needs and we can care less how it got to us IMO. In other words, this doesn't change anything.
     
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Geez Origin gaming PC's are so overpriced i just tried to build myself a mid range PC with the following specs and the total cost came to be $1600 !!

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I bet you guys can build a PC similar to this in just $1000.
    
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