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Unable to install Win8 Pro 64bit in UEFI mode

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Hi,

I'm trying to install Windows 8 64-bit on a new PC in UEFI mode but so far it's failed every time I've tried. I can successfully install Windows 8 if I use MBR mode.

Mobo: ASUS H87M-PRO
CPU: i5-4670
Mem: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2x8GB)
Graphics: Onboard
HDD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD
ODD: Lite-on IHES312

My understanding that a Windows 8 installation in UEFI mode has 4 basic requirements:

a) A UEFI enabled platform (the H87M-PRO is supposed to be UEFI enabled)
b) A x64 Operating System that supports it (in my case Windows 8 Pro 64bit)
c) Installing to GPT partitioned disk or RAID array that includes an "EFI System Partition".
d) Booting the installation media in UEFI mode (in my case retail Windows 8 Pro 64bit DVD)

BIOS: Most options set with default values. I've changed a few, such as enabled the virtualisation options, turned off numlock, etc.

SATA mode is set to: AHCI.

I've reviewed Sean's Windows 8 Install & Optimization Guide for SSDs & HDDs
http://www.overclock.net/t/1240779/seans-windows-8-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds

I have run DISKPART on the SSD and successfully cleaned the drive & converted it to GPT mode.

With the Windows 8 install DVD in the drive the BIOS BOOT section shows 2 boot selections for the DVD drive ... 1 prefixed with "UEFI".

If I select the UEFI entry to boot from, I then get to "Please hit any key to boot from CD or DVD". Doing so, simply sends me back to the BIOS screen after 2-3 secs.

I've also tried to changing some of the CSM settings to select UEFI devices 1st, etc. I've even tried disabling CSM.

The Secure Boot option is set to default value: Windows UEFI mode. I have not tried to change this.

I have tried several different boot priorities:

1. UEFI: P4 ATAPI
2. P4 ATAPI
3. P1 Samsung
4. Disabled

and

1. UEFI: P4 ATAPI
2. P1 Samsung
3. P4 ATAPI
4. Disabled

For both of the above, it tries the UEFI 1st, fails, moves on to the next, eventually the P4 ATAPI is selected and windows will install OK using MBR.

I've also tried:

1. UEFI: P4 ATAPI
2. P1: Samsung
3. Disabled
4. Disabled

One again it tries the UEFI, fails and then the Samsung. Because there's nothing on the Samsung I then get another msg ... something like ... no valid sfw to run, press CNTL-ALT-DEL to restart the PC.

So far all attempts fail to get beyond the "Please hit any key ..." msg when I either select the "UEFI" boot device or force a UEFI only boot by changing the CSM settings or boot order.

GPT mode doesn't seem to be a issue in itself. That is, I can leave the SSD in GPT mode, boot from the windows install DVD in non-UEFI mode, select custom install, allocated new partitions & I always end up with 2 partitions not 4. Cancelling the install at this point & going back to the "Install Windows" screen, hitting shift-F10, DISKPART, clean, convert mbr ... I get a error msg that the SSD is already in MBR mode!!!

My problem appears to that the UEFI boot loader (or whatever it's called) on Windows 8 Pro 64bit DVD. I don't get to see the Windows 8 "window" icon, I don't get to the "Install Windows" screen, just simply straight back to the BIOS screen.

I've Googled, reading heaps & although I'm certainly not a PC expert I can't see what I'm doing wrong or what's causing the UEFI install to fail.

Any assistance to resolve this would be most appreciated.

I've just about reached the point of giving up on UEFI, but I'm supposed to have a complaint system so it should work !!!!!

Cheers
BazzaG...
post #2 of 12
Double check CSM, should like this...





Update the mobo bios, if not current.
Your media could be bad, try an ISO on a flashdrive.
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Thanks for replying Grunion.

I'm using the latest BIOS: v0906.

Changing these options was 1 of the 1st things I tried, particularly the 'Boot from Storage Devices' BIOS option. Having it set to "Both, UEFI First" seemed to me to be correct setting.

However, they are all set to their default values:

Launch CSM: Enabled
Boot Device Control: UEFI & Legacy OPROM
Boot from Network Devices: Legacy OPROM First
Boot from Storage Devices: Legacy OPROM First
Boot from PCI-E/PCI Exp Devices: Legacy OPROM First

Anyway I just tried again ...

I changed Boot from Storage Devices to: Both, UEFI First, saved & rebooted.

Hit the enter key to the "Please hit any key to boot from CD or DVD" msg, a few secs later was back at the BIOS screen.

Faulty DVD ... yep a possibility. There's nothing physically wrong with the DVD, ie. there are no scratches or like.

Creating a USB installer is 1 of the 2 additional options that I haven't tried yet ... I don't have a 4GB+ USB stick ... been using a portable 2/5" drive for years & years. Seriously thinking of buying a 16GB USB stick & giving it a try.

The other thought I had was to remove the SSD from the new PC, put it into my USB cradle & attached to my work's laptop which is running Win7 Enterprise 32bit.

Using DISKPART clean the drive, convert to GPT mode (yet again !!!!) but this time PREALLOCATE the 4 partitions & quick format the partitions as required.

I haven't tried this because I'm not sure it would do any good since I can't get beyond the "Please hit any key to boot from CD or DVD" question whenever I select or force a UEFI boot. So the problem *seems* to be the DVD or the Lite-on IHES312 (?) rather than the SSD.

What do you or anyone else think? Worth a try?

BazzaG...
post #4 of 12
More likely the media.

Even with non supported hardware the install will start and finish 99.9% of the time.
However upon the restart you would be greeted with your hardware doesn't support yadadadadada.
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Went around to a mates place who recently upgraded 2 PC's to Win8 Pro 64bit. Borrowed his 2 x Win8 Pro 64bit upgrade DVD's.

Tried both & both DVD's got exactly the same result.

Just like my own Win8 DVD, they both show up as UEFI: ATAPI ... in the BIOS boot screen. For both I manually selected the UEFI entry in the boot override portion. Both DVD's asked me to hit any key to boot from the DVD & then simply returned to the BIOS boot screen

On the hand, I have no problem installing Win8 Pro 64bit using a upgrade DVD in MBR mode. The install works fine, windows activates no problems, etc. etc.

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post #6 of 12
Have you tried the Microsoft USB Boot installer maker from their site? It works on the ASUS UEFI mobos in the lab room.

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/html/pbPage.Help_Win7_usbdvd_dwnTool

EDIT:It says Windows 7, but works fine with Windows 8 and 8.1


Also do you have the bootx64.efi? Is the Computer completely powered down? The USB stick needs to be in, BEFORE you turn the computer on. A simple restart won't cut it.
Edited by BeerPowered - 10/5/13 at 11:02pm
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No not yet. I have to buy a USB stick. I currently use a 40GB 2.5" drive in a portable case, which I purchased way back when USB sticks were measured in MB's not GB's like today and if I remember correctly the largest 2.5 drive that could be purchased was 80GB.

Anyway, I hope to get a 16 or 32GB stick on my way home from work tomorrow .... I know it doesn't need to be that big for this task but a bigger one would be more useful in the future.

If that doesn't work then I'm going to give up on UEFI and install Win8 in BIOS/MBR mode.

I *MIGHT* try this:

https://www.facebook.com/notes/handdee-j-schoonhoven/converting-windows-8-bios-installation-to-uefi/10151455547806918

to convert Windows 8 BIOS/MBR installation to UEFI afterwards. MIGHT.

BazzaG...
post #8 of 12
I just successfully installed W8 to a Gryphon and M6E using a flashdrive.

I did have an issue in the past trying to install W7 in UEFI, turns out my SP1 was bad and I had to manually move boot files around.

Also in bios make sure UEFI is enabled under secure boot.
And instead of boot override have you tried the F8 boot pop up?

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post #9 of 12
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No I haven't tried the F8 option. My understanding is that it's equivalent to using the boot override from the BIOS screen. But I'll give it a go tonight after work & see what happens.
post #10 of 12
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Success !!!!

Firstly, I tried using the F8 key earlier in the week to bring up the Boot Menu but got the same result as above.

So today, I used Rufus (http://rufus.akeo.ie/) to create a bootable UEFI GPT Windows 8 installation disk on my new USB flash drive and BINGO.

Moral of the story; at least for me, is that even though the DVD which appears to be UEFI compliant ... it doesn't work.

Thank you to Grunion & BeerPowered for your assistance.

Cheers
BazzaG
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