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messing around with the generic driver(processr.sys) still gives the same issue, tho they works as is for regular usage

also was not aware intel had their own drivers and trying ot search those just yields no results other than the Core utility drivers

it could very reasonably be a memory issue but i cant test it sadly as i dont have access ot other ddr3 modules here right now(and the mobo is already iffiy with ddr3 compatibility being a Combo board) tho if its trced to it it would be simple ot solve, although its weird that the issues only shows as sporadic drops



on another note this is the closest explanation of what happens to the system under load(video aint mine but its a similar issue), the actual systemn is running the xeon along with 4 gb of ddr3-1333(single module) and a 560ti, before the nthe same system was running a core 2 duo there were no such issue(tho framerate was siginficantly lower)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub8cRN_xSrc
Edited by TeiX - 7/30/16 at 10:59am
post #10112 of 12463
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Originally Posted by TeiX View Post

messing around with the generic driver(processr.sys) still gives the same issue, tho they works as is for regular usage

also was not aware intel had their own drivers and trying ot search those just yields no results other than the Core utility drivers

it could very reasonably be a memory issue but i cant test it sadly as i dont have access ot other ddr3 modules here right now(and the mobo is already iffiy with ddr3 compatibility being a Combo board) tho if its trced to it it would be simple ot solve, although its weird that the issues only shows as sporadic drops



on another note this is the closest explanation of what happens to the system under load(video aint mine but its a similar issue), the actual systemn is running the xeon along with 4 gb of ddr3-1333(single module) and a 560ti, before the nthe same system was running a core 2 duo there were no such issue(tho framerate was siginficantly lower)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub8cRN_xSrc
It can be the game also, note overwatch, it's able to run on dual core cpu(i3) but the minimum requires @ least 4 Gb ram to play, and recommended is @ least 6Gb ram. 4Gb ram doesn't do much for most p.c. games today. http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=20810&game=Overwatch or even worse... Quantum Break, goes from 3.2 GHZ i5 quad with 8Gb ram as minimum, to 3.6GHz i7 with 16Gb ram as recommended! http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=8075&game=Quantum%20Break If it starts using more then U have,it's gonna use the page filoe on the disk, THAT will cause frame drops also because it's writing back & forth to the drive in game.
post #10113 of 12463
the thnig is it does the same on ANY game or otherwise " heavy" aplication and in the case of OW not even the lowset of the lowest setting spare the system of having issues, weird when the exact same system but under a e6320 could run it just fine

the main point is the system is being unable to sustain proper performance and im at wits end with it due otthat.

(also i made sure ot exclude the gpu as the issue attemped ot run it the same gpu on my own personal system, an Fx 8350 platform with no issues)

EDIT: one note here..the NB heatsinks and the few mosfets i found get rather hot is it possible that the prolbme lies with the mobo not being able ot supply the cpu and gpu properly?
Edited by TeiX - 7/30/16 at 5:53pm
post #10114 of 12463
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the thnig is it does the same on ANY game or otherwise " heavy" aplication and in the case of OW not even the lowset of the lowest setting spare the system of having issues, weird when the exact same system but under a e6320 could run it just fine

the main point is the system is being unable to sustain proper performance and im at wits end with it due otthat.

(also i made sure ot exclude the gpu as the issue attemped ot run it the same gpu on my own personal system, an Fx 8350 platform with no issues)

EDIT: one note here..the NB heatsinks and the few mosfets i found get rather hot is it possible that the prolbme lies with the mobo not being able ot supply the cpu and gpu properly?
Okm U keep stressing how the e6320 ran on that equipment just fine,ect,ect,. The e6320 only has a 1.86 GHz, FSB 266 MHz, L2 4 MB, TDP 65 Watt. TOTAL FSB is 1066. Your xeon is 1366 which is what your memory is able to OVERCLOCK to. FSB is able to reach 1366 also. BTW, according to this,your board CAN handle 8Gb of ram. maybe the faster cpu is an issue with the ram speed? Maybe that board would just be happier with a Q6700? I don't know what else to suggest. Here's a page on your board. http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-MSI/G41M-P33_Combo.html
post #10115 of 12463
@TeiX

It could be your power supply, particularly if you are having problems under load.
What model is it and how much current does it supply on the 12v rail? The Xeon will be drawing more current than the Core 2 you were running on the board before.
Then again the G41 chipset is not noted for its overclocking ability. You'd be better off in the long run getting a good P45 board.
FYI I just replaced my PSU for the second time. I had a Cooler Master 500W - you'd think more than enough for the job - but further investigation revealed it supplies 360W on the 2x12v rails combined, even though it shows 20A for each rail in the specs. 360W equates to just 30A and my card requires 36A.
Fingers crossed the Antec 650W I have now goes the distance. I've already blown up a 750W Silverstone mad.gif
     
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post #10116 of 12463
the psu is a Xfx Xt 500W (Bronze), http://xfxforce.com/en-us/products/xt-series-bronze-full-wired/xt-series-500w-psu-80-bronze-p1-500b-xtfr

the single 12 v rail is capable of supposedly 38 A @ 465 W, if that in indeed the case then i have made am istake by taking the X5450 instead of the E5450 :\ with its higher TDP, but if that's the case i cant act until i'm absolutely sure that the reason otherwise this can get pricey fast while chasing ghosts

@schuck6566

the ram module on this thing has is rated as ddr3 1333 forthe mobo it is indeed an oc but the system defaults to that value unless i set another another fsb:Dram ratio(currently it has the ratio ot place it at 1066, issue still remains), tho the NB does get a bit HOt either way
Edited by TeiX - 7/31/16 at 5:04am
post #10117 of 12463
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@TeiX

It could be your power supply, particularly if you are having problems under load.
What model is it and how much current does it supply on the 12v rail? The Xeon will be drawing more current than the Core 2 you were running on the board before.
Then again the G41 chipset is not noted for its overclocking ability. You'd be better off in the long run getting a good P45 board.
FYI I just replaced my PSU for the second time. I had a Cooler Master 500W - you'd think more than enough for the job - but further investigation revealed it supplies 360W on the 2x12v rails combined, even though it shows 20A for each rail in the specs. 360W equates to just 30A and my card requires 36A.
Fingers crossed the Antec 650W I have now goes the distance. I've already blown up a 750W Silverstone mad.gif
My sympathies, I buggered a p5e-vm board somehow bewteen the cooler standoffs,atx extension,nvidia driver with windows 10 being buggy,and psu being old.Each was causing a problem,and now the board detects a new cpu every boot.Won't save cpu settings no matter WHAT processor is installed.(metal standoffs for the evo212 seem to have scored the board,I'm wondering if maybe it's damaged circuits)rolleyes.gif That's why I have the Gigabyte board now.
post #10118 of 12463
Update:

The old CPU (E6320) does work properly and responds correctly under load(even overclocked to 2.3 GHZ), this does indeed seem to suggest the mobo cant take the additional tdp the Xeon X5450 has(e6320 has a 65W tdp)

This is a darn shame tbh but sadly i'm the one at fault here for gonig with the X version
post #10119 of 12463
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Originally Posted by TeiX View Post

Update:

The old CPU (E6320) does work properly and responds correctly under load(even overclocked to 2.3 GHZ), this does indeed seem to suggest the mobo cant take the additional tdp the Xeon X5450 has(e6320 has a 65W tdp)

This is a darn shame tbh but sadly i'm the one at fault here for gonig with the X version
I hate 2 be a jerk, but if you're having this much trouble, why not go with something like the q6700 for the upgrade? they go used anywhere from 15 to 30 dollars U.S., have a base clock of 2.66Ghz and fsb is 1066. Granted,it's power is 95 watts, but it's still lower then the x5450, AND it's a 65nm chip like the e6320 that works so well. Maybe part of the issue is the 45nm not playing nice? http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_2/Intel-Core%202%20Quad%20Q6700%20HH80562PH0678MK%20(BX80562Q6700).html EDIT: Don't shoot me! I totaly aprove of the mod! Sometimes it's just easier to go with what may work then keep trying to second guess when the item's not @ hand.wink.gif 2nd Edit: Has anyone ck'd to see if the chip is being throttled for thermal reasons? I have options in my bios that will control chip voltage & speed "According to Demand AND TEMPERATURE!" If the temp reaches a certain point, it throttles the voltage back when this is enabled.rolleyes.gif
Edited by schuck6566 - 7/31/16 at 11:04am
post #10120 of 12463
that's an easy response

i do not own this system, this was somethnig i was doing for someone that was tight on a budget so just gave them my old pc with a few upgrades in it(the xeon , a 560 ti and a new psu) ot make the experience minimally enjoyable

if push comes ot shove ill throw money t this thing and get a core 2 quad, but it's still a pain in the bum tongue.gif

as for that 2nd edit:havent seen anythnig similar in the BIOS other than the C state functions and the C1E, while the voltage control options have "Auto" defauts and the chip felt like it was massively throttled even on a cold boot
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