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So, I ordered water parts for my sig rig (and a new HTPC case). Think I'll break 4.2GHz stable with my sig rig?
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Originally Posted by TerminalVoltage View Post

The Letter in the batch code has nothing to do with stepping. Both my X5460 & X5470 have "B' batch codes but are identified as "A" in both CPU-Z and Intel CPU ID utility.

CPU-z , like all other software, it comes with it's share of bugs. Wouldn't it be fair to say this could be a software bug?
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I have the read official documentation on the batch code which tells you how to get the manufacture date and assembly location, nothing more. There is nothing official on the letters "A", "B", "C" or proceeding numbers. All I have read on multiple forums is speculation based on information a few users put together on a few CPU's. This is just misinformation that has been passed along because there is nothing official to disprove it. It goes right along with the phrase "I read it on the internet so it must be true" Until I see something official from Intel, I am going to say this is nothing more than a sequential batch number, IE A998, A999, B001 etc. This is why "C" is so rare.

Yes it should be considered speculation. I strongly disagree with your proclaimations though. You will be waiting a very long time to get omission from Intel about in-house quality practices if my stepping code speculation is indeed true to any degree. It wouldn't be good for business if they openly admitted to selling potential lesser quality components for the same price.

It's hard for me to side with your statements of "nothing more than a sequential batch number" and " This is why C is so rare" because this is again speculation. IMPO, i believe it to be questionable. If this was indeed the case wouldn't there be equally as many "C" processors out there if they were made sequentially? I'm really not trying to step on your toes my friend, but you're trying to de-bunk what could be mis-information with exactly that... mis-information.
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His voltage is fine, I run at 1.375 450 FSB X 9. That's Intel's max recommended voltage. Running it lower may cause stability issues.

IIRC the maximum safe voltage (45nm) is 1.45v for daily use. I will work on trying to find some documentation to support this. I will also say that your voltage is perfectly safe for normal daily use, but I strongly encourage you to do your own testing as you will more than likely find you don't need this much voltage while maintaining stability. I ran my x5460 at 4.037Ghz with a perfectly stable 1.288v. I was able to pass Intel burn test with 30 instances on the highest torture setting but every chip has different characteristics. All I'm saying is if you can possibly benefit from tweaking and testing...isn't it worth it?


Maybe for future reference, we could all do a better job of supporting our claims to our best ability. I do NOT participate in this forum for the sole purpose of de-throning people in any way. I come here to help people and to share my knowledge the best that I can. I remember how frustrating it was when I was new to the game. It can be very confusing when mis-information is put out there, and I encourage people to take anything without some sort of documentation with a grain of salt. I apologize if anyone was confused by my speculation
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Conductive and Capacitive, despite related, are not the same thing. What they mean is that the compound has a dielectric value that his higher than air. Like the dielectric fluid in a capacitor, if the compound is applied between two conductive parts, the ensemble might act as a capacitor. But this would likely not be an issue at all unless the two parts are very close to each other, because the total capacitance will grow exponentially with the proximity of the two parts.

So I might get worried say if it got on the pins of one of those Very small pitch SMD chips, where you can barely see the chip legs with your naked eye, those are very close from each other. But even then I do not think it would result in immediate damage, the way a conductive paste would, but rather improper operation.
I have seen some botched Xbox 360 repairs where people had put AS5 all over the place and the console still worked.

I think part of the running conception of arctic silver being dangerous comes from their older product, Arctic silver 3, which was indeed conductive and indeed fried people's hardware all over the place.
Not saying you do not need to be careful with AS5 mind you. Just saying its really not likely to insta-fry your stuff if you spill it. Might cause problems only if you are unlucky and it get the stuff at the total wrong place.

I do use it carefully and dont put it all over the place. I have steady hands and am used to working in electronics. I repair and mod lots of old consoles.

But thanks for your recommendations, I will check those alternative compound. Will likely try something new when Im done with the AS5 tube.


Yes you are very right...AS3 was very much conductive. Lots of horror stories on that stuff. I guess my whole point was to steer people away from it...I used it for 3+ years with no issues. If people aren't aware of better products then they can't take advantage of them. I'm a firm believer in nothing is impossible lol. Maybe I overly scrutinized the potential of AS5 to cause damage to components.
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My cpu arived today, will be installing on my p5q-e in ~2 days. Will keep you posted wink.gif

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My X5470 arrived!!
5 Hours@Work until I can start playing mad.gif

Quick questions
How do the sockets react to a VERY hot knife blade?
Will it cut easier/neater?

Many thanks
Justin
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My X5470 arrived!!
5 Hours@Work until I can start playing mad.gif

Quick questions
How do the sockets react to a VERY hot knife blade?
Will it cut easier/neater?

Many thanks
Justin

Using hot knife will likely make a mess a molten plastic I highly recommend you DONT do that..

I found the plastic in my P5Q socket to be easily workable with one of those small exacto blade. I used flush-cut nippers to do the rough part of the job and finished with exacto.
I am not sure I would recommend the nippers though as some of them are a bit big and the jolt when the plastic snaps might make the tool damage cpu pins, this almost happened to me.
You should be able to do a good job with small exacto if you take you time.

Also some small tweezer and a dusting can are handy to pick the small parts of plastic from your socket. I had them in the pins and had to blow air on them.
Edited by MaxWar - 1/7/14 at 7:34am
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CPU is now lapped smile.gif


Is this correct? Tomorrow I am going to get myself new AC MX-4, and proceed to final installation smile.gif
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I used a razor knife with a new blade and heated in a candle. I almost went right thru into the mother board it cut so easy. Thats how I'd do it again but be careful!
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I have EP43-ds3(F9 bios) and i wanna buy L5420. Where i can find microcodes?
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IgoRRR , congrats on the x5460. I hope it serves you as well as mine had before I sold it. If you need any recommendations for speeds/voltages please feel free to PM me and I will assist you. So far it seems as though you got all your eggs in the right basket...also adding +rep. Great job!!!
Edited by davtylica - 1/7/14 at 3:18pm
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