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post #2781 of 12465
on p5b-vm se i patched also for 6f7 6fa. no luck.
thinking about other boards i have around.
P5LD2 has no quadcore support on asus site - so no way? or give it a try?
post #2782 of 12465
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Originally Posted by DJ4g63t View Post

This question might be borderline stupid but does having the correct Xeon microcode help at all with overclocking?
It should not be relevant for overclocking, at least if you set all the voltages and settings manually. But maybe something is detected wrong (a voltage or a strap setting you may not be able to change in BIOS) and that will result in a bad behavior like not running stable even at stock speed.
And it depends on how your mainboard handles an undetected CPU without or with outdated microcodes. I think the only thing to say is that the latest and correct microcodes will not hurt your overclock.

@DeadSkull
What I saw in your screenshots is that you are too missing all the features like SSE4.1 and VT-x. So I guess you use a BIOS without the latest microcodes.

@All
Does somebody have a list for what the platform number for the microcodes stand for? For some CPU IDs there are hell of a lot of platform IDs.
For example the 10676 has platform 1, 4, 10, 40 and 80 and the 006FB has additional 8 and 20 in the microcode file I downloaded directly from intel.
I guess that platform is for the socket type, am I right? Like 775, 771 and mobile ones like Socket M or P or something like that.

And as far as modding Award BIOS files like the ones for GigaByte boards (EP35, EP45 aso.) goes ... there may be a problem if your original BIOS already has codes for your Xeon, but are outdated. With the methods posted at the beginning of this thread you just add new codes, but the old ones still remain in there.
I found that out using the latest BIOS I could find for my EP45-UD3P Rev 1.0 (1.1 also supported) F11d. That BIOS already had the Xeon codes in it, but they were outdated and I could boot but SSE4.1, VT-x and full EIST functionality was missing. Also some C-States were missing or wrong in BIOS, I guess ... didn't check on these.
So I added the updated codes and there was still no change, so I guess the BIOS maybe uses the first microcodes it finds that match.
That's why I went the hard way and used a HEX editor on the NCPUCODE.BIN (<- that's the part with the microcodes you extract with CBROM out of you BIOS). Then I went looking for the positions for the specific modules. Every module has a fixed size in kBytes like 2048 or 4096 or 8192 aso. So I took the updated modules and pasted them right over the old ones already in the NCPUCODE file. I double checked before I did that the start and end position in the HEX editor and checked the string for the correct CPUID like 7A 06 01 that stands for 1067A.

@pateman
Regarding that discussion a week back about stress testing for stability with prime and other tools, I get what you are trying to say. As far as I understood from your posts you think it is best or at least not worth it to just get a quick and stable overclock result. And I agree with you that stressing the system with high voltages and temperatures may not be a good thing to do as it may degrade your CPU and other components like chipset, mainboard components like voltage regulators, capacitors and some more as well as the PSU. But having to stress the system for a few hours really shows if your system is stable. I don't question your method and I trust your statements that your system is stable, but to test the system under unusual high load proves it. Games and applications do stress the system quite different so it may seem stable for some games and programs and then you have a game or program that crashes or shows weird behavior. And I don't want that and then have to find out what causes the problem (sometimes at first it seems to be a software problem and you try differnt drivers and settings, test you memory, maybe even swap the PSU until you find out it's your assumed stable overclock).
I use Linpack LinX - that seems to stress the system more than prime and (what I think is important) has short idle / loading states between the runs. That's important to see if the power phases/voltage regulators/and maybe even the PSU are stable when the system switches between idle and load. That's when a lot of cheaper mainboards fail because of the spikes the voltage may hit (upwards AND downwards).

So anyway, you may advise people how to get their system stable quite fast, but recommending somebody to not use prime for stability testing is wrong. You may tell people that stressing the system with high voltages may not be good for their hardware so that they can decide for themselves if they do it or live with lower settings.

@gilrum
The P5LD2 boards use a 945P or G chipset which wasn't designed for the Core 2 CPUs. Some Rev 2 Boards support the first Core 2 Duo CPUs, but I guess because of the power regulators Quads would not work.
As you can see even some of the P965 or G965 chipset boards have problems.
Edited by Bucho - 3/27/14 at 3:19am
post #2783 of 12465
BTW anybody knows why viiv boards listed everywhere as not possible for this mod?
asking because i have also one such board - intel DG33BU.
also p5b marked as working one.
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ASUS P5B P965 / ICH8 1333 (with beta bios), 1066 At least 130W Q9650, QX9650 All (within FSB limits) E5450 (C0), E5440
post #2784 of 12465
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Originally Posted by gilrum View Post

BTW anybody knows why viiv boards listed everywhere as not possible for this mod?
asking because i have also one such board - intel DG33BU.
also p5b marked as working one.

The DG33BU board should work in my opinion. It officially supports CPUs up to Q9650 an even Xeon X3360 and Xeon 3085. So I think it would work even right out the box with the latest official BIOS with at least up to E5450 or X5450.

The ViiV boards mentioned are the Q ones like Q33 or Q35 or Q43 and Q45.

The P5B (vanilla) and most of its variants (P5B-E, P5B-Deluxe, P5B Plus aso.) should work too since they use the old but capable P965 chipset which should run with 333MHz FSB and 45nm chips. But some models seem to be quite picky and cause problems.
I have an old MSI P965 Platinum that doesn't like any 45nm CPU, not even the good old E8400. Although once the board was the top of the P965 boards of MSI.
post #2785 of 12465
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Does your Xeon E5430 work the on the 745? I have an Optiplex 745 and Xeon E5420 hoping it can work. Thanks.

No it does not. the chipset is an earlier p965 which will not run 45nm processors only 65nm. The E5120 is 65nm 4mb cache dual core.
post #2786 of 12465
HI can someone post a modded Asus Striker II NSE Bios Version 0901 I need microcodes added for the Xeon L5430 and E5430.

Many thanks
Spart
post #2787 of 12465
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HI can someone post a modded Asus Striker II NSE Bios Version 0901 I need microcodes added for the Xeon L5430 and E5430.

Many thanks
Spart

Here Striker II NSE
post #2788 of 12465
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Originally Posted by ngquvi1995 View Post

Here Striker II NSE

Awesome thanks.

Spart
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Hehe, very nice!
Now I can finally upgrade my X5460 4+GHz Quad to a Willamette based Celeron 1.8GHz Socket 478 CPU so that my GTX 680 gets a proper CPU powered system.
To bad you can't reuse these nice nifty push pin CPU coolers with that adapter.

Irony with that adapter is that I guess you need to mod your BIOS too to get the proper microcodes for the old Socket 478 CPUs.

Sadly there never was a Socket 775 -> 478 Adapter to use at least dual core CPUs on old 478 boards. Core 2 would be nice, but Pentium Ds should have worked too. That it could work is proven because there were Socket 775 board from ASUS and ASROCK with 865PE chipsets and AGP / DDR1. I still have a nice ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe board at home catching dust somewhere in the corner. Back in 2005 I bought a ASUS 479 -> 478 Adapter so I could use Pentium M CPUs on that board. The Pentium M (Dothan) is like the grandfather of the Core 2 CPUs. Whereas the father is the Core Duo (Yonah) which is just like two Pentium M cores. And the great-gandfather is the Pentium III-S (Tualatin) that I use on an old ABit BX133 Raid board (that's when I first added microcodes myself to get that cpu to work).
Anyway the Pentium M was a beast and if you clocked it at 2,6+ GHz it could beat about all Pentium 4 CPUs out there even overclocked extreme Editions and also single core based Athlon 64 / FX CPUs.
Edited by Bucho - 3/28/14 at 12:38am
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